• Chapelgentry@lemmynsfw.com
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    2 months ago

    Nah, holding your vote appears to be you just being another unmotivated democratic voter without regard to why. No one gets polled on why they didn’t vote 4 years prior. At best Harris barely wins and at worst Trump takes office and you get 4 years of genocide + Ukrainian subjugation + subjugation of women, minorities, and immigrants at home.

    Kind of a no-brainer that you should vote for Harris here.

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      2 months ago

      No, if it was a no-brainer, the no-brained idiot you’re responding to would already understand this.

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      2 months ago

      Not if it’s withheld as part of a wider movement or given to a third party. That’s why it’s being paired with protests and other campaigns letting them know what they have to do to get their vote back.

      Harris barely winning but losing something like Michigan to spook her into actually doing something material to stop supporting Israel is probably my preferred scenario right now, but she already said no arms embargo is on the table and after an election she’s not really beholden to voters anymore, so doubt that will help, either.

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        1 month ago

        “barely winning” is a dangerous game to play when the consequences of losing is getting much much much further away from your stated goals. if anything it is impossible to push Trump to an anti weapon sale stance (since his core supporters don’t care and Trump is where money and strongest lobbies will be) than Kamala whose core supporters actually care but are turning the other way for now due to the fear of losing to Trump.

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          1 month ago

          Supporting a genocide is a dangerous game as well, not only politically but physically, to at this point hundreds of thousands of people. Millions have been displaced from their homes. Not everyone can just ignore it so easily.

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            1 month ago

            Doesn’t help if your plan not to support genocide is likely going to end up in a worse situation genocide wise, which also is supporting genocide.

            Realistically speaking so close to the elections you only have two choices: a party whose every member will very happily support Israel and whose core voters won’t give a damn about it or another whose a mixed bag in terms of caring about genocide and who also has many voters who are concerned about support to Israel.