Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

Last weekā€™s thread

(Semi-obligatory thanks to @dgerard for starting this)

  • swlabr@awful.systems
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    That launch happened Feb 2018. By that time, I was already solidified as a musk sceptic and didnā€™t pay attention to the hubbub. Thinking back on it:

    1. Why was this a thing?
    2. per wikipedia:

    Musk explained he wanted to inspire the public about the ā€œpossibility of something new happening in spaceā€ as part of his larger vision for spreading humanity to other planets.ā€™

    What I like about the phrasing ā€œpossibility of something newā€ is that nothing new really happened with that launch. Weā€™ve already sent all kinds of junk into space in configurations varying in impressiveness.

    1. Naming the mannequin Starman falls apart since the eponymous starman is an extra terrestrial. Just goes to show that Musk is not a Real NerdTM and just makes surface level references to look cool.
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      I was also a Elon skeptic back-then, but Iā€™ll admit I did get a kick out of the ā€œdonā€™t panicā€ dashboard.

      But golly does he read H2G2 completely wrong (transcript):

      I think and it highlighted an important point which is that a lot of times the question is harder than the answer. And if you can properly phrase the question, then the answer is the easy part. So, to the degree that we can better understand the universe, then we can better know what questions to ask. Then whatever the question is that most approximates: whatā€™s the meaning of life? Thatā€™s the question we can ultimately get closer to understanding. And so I thought to the degree that we can expand the scope and scale of consciousness and knowledge, then that would be a good thing.

      Itā€™s backwards! It misses the joke! It took thousands of years and they got a nonsensical answer before any question! It took a thousand more and they got a nonsensicalā€”incompatibleā€”question! It has been theorized that should someone understand the universe it would be replaced by something more complicated! It has also been theorized this has already happened! Also regarding scale of knowledge, Trin Tragula definetly showed that the One thing you canā€™t afford to have in this universe, is a sense of perspective!

      Surely his reading comprehension isnā€™t actually this bad, and he only got a bad meme-cliffnotes version of the radio-series/books/movies!?!

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        Surely his reading comprehension isnā€™t actually this bad, and he only got a bad meme-cliffnotes version of the radio-series/books/movies!?!

        Ow boy do I have some stories for you about his takeaways from other media he consumed. For example, and a worse take.

        (There was also a take which I remember where he mentioned that in the Culture humans are basically pets of the AIs (which is mentioned in the books yes, but only by the people who are anti/sceptical of The Culture, The Culture itself makes it pretty clear they are not pets. (In the last book they even seem to fulfill some more vital role in keeping the AIs sane, and people have full autonomy in a way that pets never do)). Couldnā€™t find this take sadly. As everything is now about the Haitian pets thing (erugh, racist shits), and also this ā€˜humans are petsā€™ thing is an not uncommon misreading of people reading the culture novels).

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          fucking hell how are Muskā€™s Banks takes even worse than I remember? that was the point where I realized I hated the fucker so youā€™d think thereā€™d be nothing left to feel rage over but no, Musk corpsefucking Iainā€™s memory once he was too dead to tell Musk to go fuck himself is absolutely doing it

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          ā€œutopian anarchistā€ I assume means ā€œit would be nice in theoryā€.

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            Nah, his ego is big enough that heā€™s probably some version of the an-cap, with a personal political based in ā€œI could give everyone this utopian world if the government and the ā€˜woke mobā€™ and the labor organizers would just get out of my way.ā€

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      Why was this a thing?

      Publicity stunt for both SpaceX and Tesla, as well as Musk himself, and a successful one at that.

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        Hope Muskā€™s existence and influence today was worth it, nerds from 2018!