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        22 days ago

        I prefer my bidet shower.

        Using toilet paper seems so awfully unhygienic in comparison. Like, if you fell face first into a pile of shit, would you want some water, soap and a towel, or… a roll of paper?

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            21 days ago

            OK aye you got me with that one.

            But also, it’s literally always been a thing here in Finland and I didn’t realise the rest of the planet doesn’t have it but default.

            Like my grandparents bathroom had one before they remodeled it in the mid 90*s.

            But yeah if you don’t have one, it doesn’t cost much. Whats that podcast one for instance.

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        22 days ago

        Can’t really be arsed to go outside everytime I need a shit.

        I have a bidet shower so having a bit of splashback isn’t such a huge deal. Just remember not to mix up your arse towel with your face towel.

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            22 days ago

            Definitely recommend.

            It’s standard here in Finland since like… I don’t even know how long. Like literally all apartments will have a bidet-shower. More common than saunas, and those are pretty much standard in everything built around 90’s and later.

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                22 days ago

                I have no idea how you’d go about “getting one”.

                Like imagine someone saying “I’ve been thinking about getting a bathroom”. Like… if you don’t already have one… where are you gonna put it?

                I’m no builder, so I’m not really a good one to ask for info on that. If your bathroom is big enough, I’m sure you can remodel and fit at least a tiny sauna.

                Maintenance? For my sauna, nothing. There’s an electric stove, wooden paneling and tiled floor. So if anything gets dirty, it’s pretty easy to clean up.

                Don’t throw beer or spit or piss on the rocks of the stove, that’s about it.

                My personal maintenance of my sauna pretty much consists of occasionally taking the bidet shower and pointing at the sauna while I’m taking a shit, because I haven’t had a sauna in a while and some dust or others debris (I some times smoke weed in the sauna, good ventilation) is on the floor and I just spray to quickly give the sauna floor a quick rinse so it looks better.

                If you live on a property though and don’t have space limitations and can build, I think you’re only limited by your imagination and size of wallet.

                Also, if you’re in the US, I don’t know if electric stoves are that great. Mine draws over 400 volts, and the US grid is 110/120v isn’t it? You can draw up to 240, but we have a 240v by default and can draw upto 480v I think.

                Ofc if you’re gonna actually build a sauna and can do it, a wood-heated stove is way better in terms of the type of löyly you get. (“Löyly” is what we call the heat that comes from tossing water onto the stove.) With an electric one, it’s somewhat rough and spiky compared to a slowly heated wooden stove, which gives a longer, more gentle löyly. I mean you get good löyly with electrics as well, mine is one, the trick being to put it on slightly lower power but let it warm up longer.

                Oh you, asking a Finn about a sauna. You knew what you were doing, perkele. Didn’t even notice I lost 20 min there.

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                  22 days ago

                  where are you gonna put it?

                  Outside, next to the house.

                  And yeah, we’re in the US, so I guess it’s not going to be an apples-to-apples thing at all. I could do 240v, but anything higher would require something special, like battery banks or something.

                  Looks like I’ll have to ask someone local, which is a bummer because almost nobody has a sauna (except one random neighbor, and they’re as American as they get). Or maybe I’ll reach out to Linus Torvalds, I imagine he’s solved the sauna problem here. :)

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                    22 days ago

                    Outside, next to the house.

                    Nice. Yeah, you’re golden if you can actually build one. It doesn’t take much and a wooden stove is arguably much better. (Electric is just for convenience as burning wood in apartment buildings every Fri and Sat drunk as hell would not be as… convenient.)

                    Basically just build a small hut with a stove in it, I’m sure you’re up for it.

                    I’ve been in a sauna we set up on a small island on Midsummer’s eve once. Or which my friends had set up a few hours before we got there. You just build a large stack of stones so that it can fit a fire underneath it, set up the tent over it, while keeping the flaps open, then once the fire has been on for a long time and the stones are hot, you douse there fire, ventilate a bit, then close the flaps and that’s it. Take a bucket of water and go in and splash the stones.

                    I’m sure sauna stovetops are available in the US. What isn’t? Haha. Kiuas is what it is called in Finnish. That’s a specific word for the stove of a sauna — like how spaghetti is a word for a specific type of noodle.

                    And even if you don’t use firewood anywhere else, shouldn’t be much of an issue to have a lapful or two somewhere in the garage.

                    So you know, only your imagination is the limit.

                    And depending on how far you’re gonna put the building, you might want to consider a stove top with a small water reserve on it, so you’ll have hot water in the sauna and can mix that with cold water to make something decent temperature bathing water you can wash yourself with. It’s so relaxing washing yourself in the gentle heat of a sauna as opposed to standing under a shower — or even worse, under a shower (in a cool bathroom) that’s not on because you don’t want to waste water.

                    Like either in a bathroom adjacent to a sauna or in the sauna itself once it’s not peak hot. Like if you had a wood heated stove, you stop putting in wood like an hour before you wash yourself, depending on the stove. So you still get nice jälkilöyly (after-löyly), like the heat that’s left in the sauna after a hard löyly. Some of these terms aren’t as easy to translate as I might have thought. Some connotations are lost. Oh wait no they’re not: jälkilöyly, residual heat; tepid heat obtained from the sauna stove (see: kiuas) after the actual bathing.

                    Just to remind you with a sauna as youre designing it, somewhere to sit outside the sauna is also pretty important, so you can cool off in between löylys. Hot, cool, hot, cool, hot, cool.

                    If you had like a pond in your yard that’d be perfect. A come plunge from a sauna is very traditional. Rolling around in snow is also traditional, if you’re in a state that ever gets snow.

                    Amazon even sells mobile sauna stove tops in the Ststes, I see. (I put in Idaho as my post code to see what’s available in the US.)

                    So flimsy looking mobile sauna stove tops from like a $100 to gorgeous looking huge ones costing $3000 and more.

                    Just get searching, I guess. Can’t decide for you lol.