• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    Good news! You will too! You are a member of a society that is all participating. Just because you pretend like you have better morals by not actually participating in a meaningful way doesn’t mean you aren’t complicit. If someone is about to be murdered and you don’t stop them because “you don’t want to get your hand dirty” then you made a choice to do nothing. Doing nothing (or meaningfully nothing) doesn’t keep you clean, it makes you complicit with anything that happens, not fighting against the worst possible outcome.

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      Good news! You will too! You are a member of a society that is all participating.

      Don’t confuse being a victim yourself of your authoritarian state wrongdoings with actively endorsing and supporting your government.

      not actually participating in a meaningful way

      Not supporting fascists (israel government) or these behind them is a much more meaningful way to help things for good than directly endorsing and supporting them.

      If someone is about to be murdered and you don’t stop them because “you don’t want to get your hand dirty” then you made a choice to do nothing.

      Kids are being murdered in gaza right now as we talk and what you are doing is advocating for the perpetrators, again shame on you.

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        Not supporting fascists (israel government) or these behind them is a much more meaningful way to help things for good than directly endorsing and supporting them.

        What does not supporting them do? Give me an actual answer of how it effects them in a way that’s different from you not existing at all.

        Kids are being murdered in gaza right now as we talk and what you are doing is advocating for the perpetrators, again shame on you.

        Women are dying in the US because they can’t get treatment for pregnancy related complications. Trans people are being denied Healthcare. People are starving and unhoused.

        No matter what, everything won’t be fixed. Even if you got to hand pick a perfect candidate, they wouldn’t or couldn’t fix everything. You always only have the choice between what the best outcome will be, not the perfect outcome. Not making a choice makes you a participant in whatever outcome others pick for you.

        Shame on you if things get worse because you wanted to pretend moral superiority. Everyone who gets hurt or dies after this is on you (too). Actual morality is a little more complicated than what you’re pretending. It’s a very complex and diverse subject, and there really isn’t black and white.

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          Women are dying in the US because they can’t get treatment for pregnancy related complications. Trans people are being denied Healthcare. People are starving and unhoused.

          And you are advocating for the government in charge! Shame on you! If someone gets hurt you voted for it, don’t you try to put the blame on others, you are supporting this shit more than everyone else

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            And if someone gets hurt, you didn’t vote to prevent it. Which one is worse? I’d rather try to do good than not participate and allow bad to happen.

            … don’t you try to put the blame on others…

            Oh, only you’re allowed to do that. My bad. I forgot that only people doing nothing get to blame other people! Sorry! People who actually do want to participate in making the best choice for the most people just have to accept that we did what’s best and can’t point out the failing of people advocating for not doing what’s best.