Jerry Seinfeld ‘Regrets’ Saying the ‘Extreme Left’ Killed Comedy: ‘It’s Not True … You Can’t Say Certain Words About Groups. So What?’
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Jerry Seinfeld says it's not true that the extreme left and P.C. culture killed comedy.
  • MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Jerry seinfeld is one of the least funniest people who ever called themselves a comic.

    • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I think he had one or two good lines in the show. but the other three carried that shit like their lives depended on it.

    • Sarmyth@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      His show was a cultural phenomenon. You’ve never heard of the least funny comedian. Let’s stop the weird Lemmy contrarianism. It makes us look more insanely out of touch than Jerry Seinfeld. (Which is so well known his name is in my auto-correct).

      • Ginny [they/she]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 month ago

        I don’t think the contrarianism is Lemmy specific. Whenever someone becomes problematic for whatever, there’ll always be people taking to twitter or whatever to say “well they were never really that good anyway”. And it is almost always just a cope, except in the specific case of Rob Schneider.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 month ago

        Seinfeld turn to shit the moment Larry David left. Curb made it clear that he carried that show.

      • OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        I wouldn’t say that’s contrarianism. I’ve heard criticism for Jerry Seinfeld’s comedy since at least 2004, calling out observation comics as a whole was trending at the time of his show even. Larry David made that show great, and some of the cast played their roles really well, Jerry Seinfeld wasn’t one of them for me and seemingly a lot of people.

      • blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        I absolutely loved Seinfeld (the show) and recently saw his stand up in person and it was absolutely terrible, it was actually pretty shocking. He’s just so incredibly unrelatable now.

    • Letstakealook@lemm.ee
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      1 month ago

      I’ve never understood why he’s been placed on such a pedestal. Professionally, he wasn’t even among the funniest of his contemporaries. Personally, he’s also always been a piece of shit, and I’m not just talking about him being generally rude to others.

      • PoopingCough@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 month ago

        I mean Seinfeld was fucking huge. It’s hard to overstate how big a hit it was in its time. And he was co-creator, the lead role, and obv his name is the name of the show. How could you not see people putting him up as one of the greats?

        I’m not personally the biggest fan of his particular style of comedy, and you can certainly find issue with his personality and behavior over the years, but the man knows how joke structure works. He’s an expert in his craft. And you may not think he’s as good as some of his contemporaries, but there’s no denying he’s more of a household name than most if not all of them.

        • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 month ago

          Seinfeld, the show, was remarkable and set a number of expectations that shows today must hit to be even partially successful. It was remarkable. So many modern tropes and memes are directly traced back to Seinfeld.

          Jerry Seinfeld, the comedian, was not exceptional in the grand scheme. He is a decent comedian, but without the show, he wouldn’t be referred to nearly as much as he is.

          There’s a difference between the two, and I think a lot of the disagreements are with people equating these two as if they’re the same.

        • Letstakealook@lemm.ee
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          1 month ago

          I know how big Seinfeld was, I was around, lol. Him getting that show and being a household name isn’t exactly a reflection of talent. There are other factors and circumstances that also contribute to that. I also don’t disagree that the man has an understanding of comedy/joke telling. I just feel that, overall, he is very overrated, and he is long past the point that his opinions should be considered relevant or listened to.

          • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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            1 month ago

            Him getting and making that show is unequivocally a reflection of talent. 9 seasons of constant one of the top five most watched sitcoms with no bad seasons. You’re an idiot if you don’t think that takes loads talent.

          • PoopingCough@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            1 month ago

            Won’t disagree with you there, I was just explaining why he’s put on such a pedestal. It’s not uncommon for the most well known people in an art to not be the absolute most talented people doing it; unfortunately talent alone almost never brings people success.

  • Lido@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    Jerry Seinfeld has never been politically relevant and hasn’t suffered in the least because of his Seinfeld residuals.

    Bill Hicks (RIP) has never been more relevant.

      • Krauerking@lemy.lol
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        1 month ago

        Its a great thing.
        It doesn’t mean anyone has to immediately forgive him and if he means it, he will have to prove it more than once.

  • Jomega@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I never understood why he would say that to begin with. It’s not like his brand of comedy was ever particularly edgy. Obviously the “people are too sensitive these days” thing is stupid, but it felt extra strange coming from him.

    • jonne@infosec.pub
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      1 month ago

      Maybe he got accosted by a Gen Z flight attendant about one of his biting air travel observations.

    • krashmo@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      People are too sensitive these days though. The problem is that no one agrees what it’s important to be sensitive about while simultaneously looking for reasons to be offended on behalf of others.

    • tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      What’s the deal with the smallest of marginalized groups? They weren’t important before, why do I have to care about them now? /s