• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    2 hours ago

    That’s a modern take that doesn’t really hold up to any scrutiny since there was conservatism before capitalism.

    It’s a convenient rallying cry of people who prefer socialism as they understand it, but the direct comparison doesn’t hold any historical water.

    mega fits into capitalism and socialist. I think they’re such broad concepts, but definitely not the instigating concepts of fascism are conservatism.

    I remember that book, it’s older right? I read it in college or high school at some point.

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      Conservativism isn’t the same as fascism. Reactionary movements have existed in every form of Class Society, when Capitalism overtook Feudalism it was the holdover Monarchist movements. It isn’t a “convenient rallying cry,” but an analysis of reactionary vs progressive social movements driven by class interests.

      mega fits into capitalism and socialist

      I have no idea what this means. Why do you think MAGA is Socialist?

      I remember that book, it’s older right? I read it in college or high school at some point.

      Written in the 90s, you should revisit it.

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        “Reactionary movements have existed in every form of Class Society, when Capitalism overtook Feudalism it was the holdover Monarchist movements.”

        and before class society!

        "an analysis of reactionary vs progressive social movements driven by class interests. "

        blaming capitalism for literally everything, especially in a meme, is simple aggressive fomenting.

        superficial demonization encourages a riot, not a movement, although it’s easy to confuse the two when your blood is pumping and everyone around you is screaming the same facile slogan.

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          and before class society!

          What “reactionary” movements existed in tribal societies devoid of distinct classes?

          blaming capitalism for literally everything, especially in a meme, is simple aggressive fomenting.

          I blame Capitalism for Capitalism’s issues, not literally everything.

          superficial demonization encourages a riot, not a movement, although it’s easy to confuse the two when your blood is pumping and everyone around you is screaming the same facile slogan.

          I have no idea what point you’re actually making.