• HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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    30 days ago

    If capitalism is allowed to continue it will render humanity extinct. If we collapse now, and are reduced to a fraction of our population this century, humanity may live.

    I don’t enjoy that being the best option we have at this point. It brings me no joy. But what brings me less joy is knowing that we won’t even make a choice. We will continue blindly waddling along and as capitalism consumes the world, we will wonder who will save us. And no one will.

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      30 days ago

      Is anyone actually claiming that we’re on a path to extinction? That’s hyperbole.

      This type of thinking is not constructive in any way.

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        30 days ago

        We are in the midst of the sixth mass extinction event the earth has experienced. As ecosystems collapse, organisms at the top of the food web are in peril. Yes, humans are in danger of extinction.

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          30 days ago

          What a silly thing to say.

          You realise extinction requires no living specimens to exist right?

          Some number of humans will prevail even if the only thing left to eat is slime mold.

          Climate change is a big deal. The future is very bleak. People with the power to mitigate the damage are doing the opposite.

          Claiming that human extinction is possible or likely about as helpful as suggesting that ancient aliens have the solution.

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            29 days ago

            Claiming that human extinction is possible

            What a silly thing to say, indeed. Of course it’s possible.

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            29 days ago

            https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-47540-7

            Don’t miss this bit:

            The bounds are subject to important limitations. Most importantly, they only apply to extinction risks that have either remained constant or declined over human history. Our 200 kyr track record of survival cannot rule out much higher extinction probabilities from modern sources such as nuclear weapons or anthropogenic climate change.

            • fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc
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              29 days ago

              Oh sweetheart.

              Did you google “human extinction science” and link the first result without reading it?

              The part you quoted just says modern extinction risks are out of scope for this study.

              It does not say that extinction is probable or likely.

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                29 days ago

                Our 200 kyr track record of survival **cannot rule out much higher extinction probabilities **

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                29 days ago

                Look, I know it’s not something anyone wants to confront, but I’m not sending it out of malice, or to attack you. There’s no need to be condescending.

                I simply want to be realistic about the world we live in. From my point of view it is better to be concerned about the possibility of human extinction and act as though it is a potential outcome, rather than to pretend that our species has wholly conquered the laws of nature and is indestructible.

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                  29 days ago

                  It’s impossible not to sound condescending when talking to someone who’s just making stuff up and claiming that it’s a plausible assertion.

                  You’re not being realistic, you’re being dramatic.

                  Human extinction is not a realistic nor likely outcome to the problems humanity presently faces.

                  Even in the worst projections for climate change, some areas of the globe will still be able to support life.

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                    29 days ago

                    Alright. I’m sorry to have annoyed you. I was just hoping for a discussion.

                    We have a difference of opinion and that’s alright. My concerns surrounding the Holocene extinction event triggering total ecosystem collapse need not be yours.

                    I’m a human behind a screen, just like you. It’s free to be kind to people, even when you disagree with them.