No video released yet but the right wing blog-sphere is already claiming it’s AI. Put on your seat-belts and keep your hands inside the car at all times.

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    21 days ago

    This is just conspiratorial garbage. That article is garbage. I would love for something like this to take him down, but if you think this has any credibility, please realize that your ability to critically analyze new information is ridiculously clouded by confirmation bias.

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      Did Charlie Kirk tweet that? If so, I’d believe it’s 100% for real and they’re trying to get out in front of it. Like many posters below point out, his base won’t care.

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        I have a hard time discerning if Kirk knows this, or if he’s just projecting after the Swift AI nonsense.

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        The tweet is vague. We’ve seen ai been used already in this election to spread misinformation, so it’s saying Democrats might do so could refer to literally anything.

        But when put in the context of this supposed tape, it dishonestly makes it sound like they are talking about it.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’d be happily wrong about this, but this is literally nothing right now.

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      The fact that the some of the most immoral spin-doctors that aren’t directly related to the Trump campaign – Posobiec and Kirk for starters – are clearly trying to get out in front of some sort of bad news that, based on their comments, appears to be a video grants more weight to claims than this random article.

      That being said, whether there is actually a video or they’re reacting to the same rumored threat is unknown. Even if it were true, I honestly don’t know if it would make enough of a difference for Trump’s supporters. And, again if true, the longer they hold the video and allow advance spin and damage control to run unopposed, the less effect it will have. The simple fact is that Trump supporters would then be looking for any reason to simple dismiss/ignore it, and they will undoubtedly be given many reasons by affiliates of Trump’s campaign.

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        are clearly trying to get out in front of some sort of bad news that, based on their comments, appears to be a video grants more weight to claims than this random article.

        This is a lot of assumptions. They are constantly saying Democrats are about to do something bad. It’s part of their shtick, and they are just trying to keep people afraid.

        But even if we agree and they are clearly trying to get out in front of something that doesn’t make anything we put into that hole “has more weight.”

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          Trump spin-doctors are specifically referencing that democrats are going to release an “AI-generated” piece of media. I’m assuming that means they’re worried something might be released soon. That’s it, I’m not putting anything in a “hole,” I’m just waiting to see what they’re trying to get in front of.

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            We have two people, who often claim Democrats are about to do something bad, tweeting that Democrats are about to do something bad. This isn’t “clearly getting ahead of something” it could just be their typical fear mongering.

            You also said that this “fact” gives the claim more weight, but it still could be referring to literally anything.

            All we have is some “social media users” saying there is a tape and misleading via context claims that 2 of the hundreds of right wing spin doctors are vaguely referencing a video.

            It’s absolutely nothing at this point

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      21 days ago

      Sure there’s video. There’s a pee tape too. Just like the tooth fairy and a politician that cares. They all exist.

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      It’s such a waste of time

      “Without proof, claims of video of event exists”

      And then it’s just random people on twitter

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      They’re the party of “PEDOPHILES SHOULD BE KILLED, DEAD PEDOPHILES CAN’T REOFFEND, I HUNT PEDOPHILES, AND IT’S TOTALLY NORMAL AND NOT PROJECTION THAT I’VE MADE THIS MY ENTIRE IDENTITY.” Which is effectively the same thing but is slightly different.

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        PEDOPHILES SHOULD BE KILLED, DEAD PEDOPHILES CAN’T REOFFEND, I HUNT PEDOPHILES

        Always weirds me the fuck out when I see this stuff. Like, my dude, pedophiles are quite universally reviled, even amongst hardcore criminals, why the hell do you feel the need to loudly signal this ?

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      It isn’t, in fact despite the video not being released it’s already being “debunked” as AI on Far Right websites.

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      Mrrrmmm, ACKchyually, she’s over 15 so it’s EPHEBOphilia. They’re two very different things, thank you very much.

      /s, kiddie diddling is kiddie diddling.

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        kiddie diddling is kiddie diddling.

        Absolutely 100%. Taking advantage of a minor is wrong no matter what.

        However, the word you used describes an attraction, not actual rape. And in that case there is a big difference because being attracted to mid to late teens, which is a perfect normal and healthy sexual attraction, and pedophilia, which is a disorder. This is the same science that confirms homosexuality and trans identity are perfectly normal, and rejecting this science is no different than rejecting that people can be gay and trans.

        I know I’ll be piled on because of the pedophile panic that has gripped so many people, but I don’t care because I think it’s important for people to understand this. After watching the suffering of gay and trans people, first hand, being treated like deviants or that there is something wrong with them I can’t stand by while people treat other normal and healthy people as if they are fucked up. It’s not right.

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          People keep saying diddling is diddling, but then they still seem to get progressively more outraged as the age of the victim goes down. I think it’s normal to get more horrified the younger and more “innocent” the victim is. It doesn’t mean that raping a teenager is no big deal if you think raping an infant is an extra level of depraved.

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          Pssst… It’s not Reddit, it’s the people. The Reddit bullshit was what came from the admins. Everything else, the users and the mods, were just people being themselves.

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      No no no no. The last one isn’t true.

      The rich can do whatever they please, that’s their right for being rich (/s).

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    They didn’t care when Jeffrey Epstein hooked Don up with a 13-year-old at his private minor rape party. Why would they care about a boob grab?

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    I’d like to see the video first. Claims of a video are pretty meaningless. It’s a lot like saying you have a concept of a plan.

    Nevertheless, I hope it’s not fucking true, because if it is true, that means some poor woman was victimized, will probably never get to see any justice because the legal system refuses to hold Trump accountable for anything, and it won’t move the needle an inch in terms of the blind deference Republicans give to Trump.

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      Child. Some poor child was sexually assaulted. We need to collectively stop with the mitigating language thing. We’re not the fucking news media.

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        Also, the assumption that SA victim = female. The article only ever says minor and any gender can be a victim.

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      I’m unfamiliar with this news site, but they must know they have to do better on sources, because this sounds like reporting on rumours.

      "Several social media users, including commentators and reporters…" (emphasis mine).

      Interesting that the right is already accusing them of potentially using deepfakes in the future. Maybe they know of something captured in video, or maybe random blanket statements of innocence are necessary with a knob end like Trump.

      I also hope no one was victimized.

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      And the woman in the video will be endlessly harassed by the far-right extremists regardless of who took and released the video.

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    He could eat then punt a baby on video and maga cultist wouldn’t care.

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        Yes, it makes no logical sense in this physical realm… and they still won’t question it

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          Clearly you don’t eat babies! The whole point of eating babies is the skull comes apart.

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          Pff. Who brought the new guy right? It’s getting to the point you can’t have Sunday afternoon baby BBQ and skull football game anymore. Whats happened to us these last few years?

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            Because satire tends to be lost on conservatives nowadays:

            The above comments are SATIRE, meaning we are JOKING and DO NOT bbq, eat, or punt babies, because killing babies is BAD.

            And before some smartass points to abortion rights as “killing babies,” well you’ll be shocked to hear that adding restrictions to reproductive care actually INCREASES infant mortality (which means more babies die, which is BAD).

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    Remember; this is who tankies look up to the most.

    The loaded-diaper, child-molesting, fake-tanned e-coli maganet

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    This fascist POS was literally found to be a credible sexual abuser and it did nothing.

    This too, if proven true, will also do nothing because Republicans endorse this type of behavior.

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    Perhaps explains his seemingly defeated attitude recently. His canceling of multiple events. His comment at yesterday’s rally…

    Trump: I realized our time is coming to an end. In many ways it’s sad. I’ve been doing this for 9 years.

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    That’s… Interesting. This site is considered to have a significant right bias, but it’s still reporting on these claims, and seems to give them credibility. OTOH, Times Now News has a very mixed record on facts, so this might be total bullshit.

    We’ll see what happens. If it’s real, and it comes out with a week left before the election, that might be just enough to tip the scales. Maybe.

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      Doubtful, GOP was perfectly willing to vote for a pedophile before, this is literally nothing to them.

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        I’m thinking of the voters that are at the margins, not his core demographic. I agree that MAGAs are going to be unswayed no matter what. But there are def. voters that are thinking about personal finances, and think Trump will be better for their wallet (spoiler: he wouldn’t be), and you might be able to peel them off if something really gross came out just before they voted. Or peel enough of them off to make a difference.