• Adderbox76@lemmy.ca
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    Josie and the Pussycats was lampooning our current celebrity obsessed, “influencer” obsessed, consumer lifestyle 20 years ago. Yes, there was certainly celebrity worship back then. But the way the movie portrayed it and the consumer greed that seeks to profit from it feels even more relevant today.

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    11 hours ago

    “Mystery Men” seems to have a lot of themes on super hero fatigue in it that feels like it would be a better commentary in 2019 than 1999.

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    Clue is an interesting study. It’s a movie set in the 50’s, made in the 80’s, and it bombed in theaters in the 80’s, but the television cut became popular in the 90’s and 00’s. It definitely is a product of the 80’s, I don’t think they would have made it in 1995, but that’s when it landed.

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    John Wayne’s ‘The Green Berets’ is an oddity. While it’s not out of its time, since the 1960s was packed with war movies, the fact that it’s a Vietnam movie rather than a WW2 movie gives it a surreal quality. It is filmed with the same tone, style, and music as something like ‘The Longest Day’ but it’s about Vietnam making it a million miles away from the style of most Vietnam movies.

    Standout scenes include a green beret ranting at a strawman reporter, and the scene where John Wayne smashes an obviously toy rifle to pieces.

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        There is also a difference in theming.

        The inner city as a dangerous place of crime for white suburbanites stopped being used as a trope in the 90’s while it is on display here.

        The study of a broken man in the process of snapping also feels a lot like movies like Taxi Driver.

        I also feel like certain locations and the dress of the main character is made to evoke older times.

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    Citizen Kane.

    Yes it is circle jerked hard by film lovers… For good reason.

    This is what I might consider the first movie shot in what would be recognized as a modern movie format.

    It is told non sequentially, the composition of shots is absolutely incredible.

    It’s a movie shot in 1941 that looks nothing like the other movies of the time. Literally decades ahead of its time. It looks like it could have been shot a few months ago as a period piece.

    There’s good reason for it being one of the most acclaimed movies of all time.

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      It’s hard to overstate how important the film is to cinema. It pretty much established what the modern movie is.

      That said, based strictly off of entertainment value. IMO it is just absolutely terrible.

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        That’s interesting. I’m not a film guy at all, and it certainly never occurred to me that it pioneered some of the key stuff in modern movies (although that totally makes sense). But I remember enjoying it! The pacing felt quite good, there were some mysteries and character drama. Not a top movie for me personally, but pretty watchable for a B&W movie.

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    I still can’t believe The Matrix is from '99. The themes and the effects hold up incredibly well, it feels far more modern.

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      I strongly disagree, Matrix was very much a product of its time, if it had released a decade before or a decade after it would not have had the same impact.

      In the 80s as a general rule people didn’t know of the internet nor were they very computer savvy.

      In the late 00s cellphones started to be ubiquitous and people were using broadband almost exclusively.

      So there was only a small period of time when people were familiar with the idea of telephone lines carrying data, which is a core concept of the movie (exiting the Matrix through your cellphone or laptop is a lot less cool and less prone to plot hooks).

      Not to mention that the 90s were extremely gothic and grimdark about the future. I don’t think a movie that the base premise is in the future humans are enslaved to machines and hooked to a large simulation to keep them from realizing they’re slaves would work in any time period besides the 90s.

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        Agreed with all that, but still, don’t forget how mind blowing it was in 1999. One of the only movies I ever saw twice in the theaters, two nights in a row even.

        Even the trailers were wild. First time we saw one in the theater my gf and I looked at each other like, “What the fuck was that all about?!”

        The Matrix was to science fiction in 1999 about what Star Wars was in 1977, so far ahead of the game it was like nothing before it.

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        There was also that short sliver of the late 90s through early 2000s where the slick black trenchcoat and sunglasses look was considered unironically cool.

        The Matrix, Blade, Underworld, and Equilibrium all being in this era. Any movie where characters dress like this to be cool and it isn’t treated with at least a wink to the audience probably either came from this time or is a sequel to something from this time.

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            I’d think so too, but Columbine shooting was 1999. Movies still used it unironically for another few years. In media I think it mostly went away because it got parodied to death.

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        It’s for sure a product of its time, but it really doesn’t feel like a 1999 movie. Around that time we had

        • Sixth sense
        • American beauty
        • Eyes wide shut
        • Being John Malkovich
        • Fight Club

        Matrix has such a stark level of visual and thematic modernity compared to those. Maybe Fight Club comes near, but the other movies look like they’re from a different decade.

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          Matrix is a “work sucks” movie the same way that “American Beauty”, “Fight Club”, and “Office Space” was. It is a very 1999 movie.

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      Actually, I believe you’ll find, if you refer to the title, that it is a movie about two days after its time

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    The Fall by Tarsem. I’ve been so happy the 4k remaster and theatrical re-release has been getting some love now.