• Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    Kind of a day late dollar short scenario

    I mean I already voted for Harris because I don’t wanna die in a Trump Brand Concentration Camp, but, she really couldn’t have said this any fucking sooner?

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      17 hours ago

      She had to wait until the day before the election so that AIPAC doesn’t have enough time to ratfuck her for it.

      Unfortunately, that’s how things work here if you’re critical of Israel in any way.

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        Instead the majority of people who oppose genocide have seen how she has continued to pledge her support. They have seen how children, women and men have been blown to shreds and burned alive with weapons the Biden-Harris administration has sent.

        This reeks more of a desperate attempt to peddle to voters now that she realizes genocide is indeed a red line for some voters

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          I really don’t want you people to have to find out the hard way just how fucking stupid all of this anti-Harris shit is so close to the election.

          Because that would mean that millions of Palestinians would be killed when the current genocide is turned up to 11 after President Trump gives Netanyahu a blank check. I really don’t want that. Stop trying to get Trump elected please.

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            Not to mention the fact that a Trump win would be catastrophic to climate action. The actual number of lives on the line here is in the hundreds of millions. Anyone who can’t decide to vote for Harris just simply cannot be trusted. They are not our allies, and we should remember who they are long after this election is over, regardless of who wins.

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              With AMOC collapse happening actively, she is probably our last hope. We don’t have more time to “protest” vote or whatever. We need her now.

              8 billion people and all megafauna and megaflora and pretty much everything in the ocean is relying on this election. Gaza is sad, but those people will die to horrific climate change anyway if Trump is elected.

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              15 hours ago

              I’m not voting for Israel, I’m voting against the guy who is trying to prevent a ceasefire.

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                  12 hours ago

                  That’s because ending weapons shipments is something we can objectively do, and should do.

                  It’s not like the president can just say “I declare a ceasefire between Israel and Palestine” and it magically happen. All we can do is advocate for it.

                  Harris has been clear in her commitment to doing whatever it takes to reach a ceasefire. Trump has been having multiple calls a week with Netanyahu trying to prevent a ceasefire.

                  There are only three options in this election:

                  • Harris: Support of a ceasefire.
                  • Trump: Support of genocide.
                  • Anything else: You don’t give a shit.
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            17 hours ago

            We demanded for almost a year that the Democrats need to stop supporting genocide. Instead Biden, Harris and the other party elites would rather hand the US to Trump than to stop more Arabs being murdered. Maybe she proves us wrong and actually puts Israel in check. But everything action so far has been the opposite of that.

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              15 hours ago

              Answer one simple question: Do you honestly believe Trump will be better for Palestinians?

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                I believe the US is a white supremacist empire, founded on a settler colonial genocide, which is part of why it now supports another settler colonial genocide.

                There will be no change to that in the current political system. It requires a fundamental political change, probably revolution, but certainly the dismantling of the current political parties to change that.

                Maybe Trump will speed up the genocide of Palestinians, but the Democrats are equally committed to it, as they have thrown away every chance to end it, while taking every chance to perpetuate it.

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                  14 hours ago

                  So your floor here is “throw gas on the fire”. Got it. You admit at best he’ll be the same, and you’re advocating for it. Your stance doesn’t seem sane for someone who wants less pain and suffering.

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                    So what is your plan exactly? You want to vote for a genocider, giving them the one thing you have in exchange, your one bargaining chip? And then what, write a strongly worded letter? Or are you one of those libs that intends to go back to brunch having “Done your part” in voting for “The lesser evil” who will still genocide the Palestinians? Could you be one of those people who want to “be done with politics” so that it’s “no longer in your face anymore”? You don’t strike me as the “organize my workforce towards collective action centered around Gaza” type.

                    When you are making demands, you need leverage. The baseline leverage you have, is your vote. You’ve not leveraged a single thing.

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                  Didn’t answer the question. The choice is binary at this point. You can support the one person who’s actually said they’ll try and stop it, or you can throw your support in the trash and help the opposition that’s said “Finish the problem” when referring to the people of Palestine.

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      1 day ago

      Trump Brand Concentration Camp is very apt. It succinctly expresses that the whole thing exists only for his personal monetary gain and he’s escalating to extremes for his grift.

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      I don’t know. Election day is tomorrow (Technically today as I’m typing). For sure late, but maybe not too late.