My point is that this isn’t some random person stating as much. It’s an actual finding by the federal government, and adding to that the lawsuit makes it crystal clear the hospital is in the wrong.
If I tell my doctor friend Bob not to call 911 unless there’s an emergency, my other friend Tom has a seizure that Bob believes may kill him, and Bob doesn’t call 911, is that my fault or Bob’s?
The fact that numerous abortions have happened in ban states and nobody has been charged so far is evidence that emergency allowances aren’t some draconian measure.
And you don’t seem to be listening to people who are telling you that the law doesn’t have to be draconian to cost people their lives.
If some number of hospitals conclude that the cost of letting people die and settling wrongful death cases is lower than the cost of defending patients’ rights to an abortion under their specific circumstances, then those hospitals will set policy that prohibits providing those abortions. Because they are profit-driven, not charities (a separate but related problem)
I will say it again: if the cost is less than the profit, it’s not a punishment, it’s a business expense. Put another way, if actually breaking law A costs less than defending accusations of breaking law B, they will break law A every time.
I’m really tired of trying to explain to people that laws and politics do not exist in a bubble.
That calculation can change at any time. Since every state with an abortion ban allows for emergency abortions, federal law requires that they be available, and no doctors have been prosecuted for performing an emergency abortion, there is no logical reason to believe this will happen. However, there is now a significant risk of someone suing the hospital if a woman becomes injured or dies. When they realize they can make more money by following the law, this problem will go away.
A) You hope it will. In the meantime, we continue to see cases of people being in danger or even dying.
B) Good for you that you can hand-wave away other people’s lives and safety as just a temporary bump in the road.
Your callousness is disconcerting, to say the least, and I’m done with this conversation now because I can’t teach you to stop looking at people as statistics.
A) These kinds of calculations change all the time. That’s why we have other companies that hire and fire people constantly or make other seemingly absurd decisions - the cost and benefit calculations change. There’s more money to be made in providing early deliveries, like one doctor said they would, than there is in sending patients (customers) on their way with no treatment and getting sued for it. Based on the hundreds of abortions that have happened in Missouri since the ban clearly other doctors think this is true.
B) Allowing abortion in all cases would be a fallacious and nightmarish way to handwave human life as expendable in the name of bodily autonomy.
You don’t want to kill people unnecessarily, do you? That would make you so callous as to be inhumane.
My point is that this isn’t some random person stating as much. It’s an actual finding by the federal government, and adding to that the lawsuit makes it crystal clear the hospital is in the wrong.
If I tell my doctor friend Bob not to call 911 unless there’s an emergency, my other friend Tom has a seizure that Bob believes may kill him, and Bob doesn’t call 911, is that my fault or Bob’s?
The fact that numerous abortions have happened in ban states and nobody has been charged so far is evidence that emergency allowances aren’t some draconian measure.
And you don’t seem to be listening to people who are telling you that the law doesn’t have to be draconian to cost people their lives.
If some number of hospitals conclude that the cost of letting people die and settling wrongful death cases is lower than the cost of defending patients’ rights to an abortion under their specific circumstances, then those hospitals will set policy that prohibits providing those abortions. Because they are profit-driven, not charities (a separate but related problem)
I will say it again: if the cost is less than the profit, it’s not a punishment, it’s a business expense. Put another way, if actually breaking law A costs less than defending accusations of breaking law B, they will break law A every time.
I’m really tired of trying to explain to people that laws and politics do not exist in a bubble.
That calculation can change at any time. Since every state with an abortion ban allows for emergency abortions, federal law requires that they be available, and no doctors have been prosecuted for performing an emergency abortion, there is no logical reason to believe this will happen. However, there is now a significant risk of someone suing the hospital if a woman becomes injured or dies. When they realize they can make more money by following the law, this problem will go away.
A) You hope it will. In the meantime, we continue to see cases of people being in danger or even dying.
B) Good for you that you can hand-wave away other people’s lives and safety as just a temporary bump in the road.
Your callousness is disconcerting, to say the least, and I’m done with this conversation now because I can’t teach you to stop looking at people as statistics.
A) These kinds of calculations change all the time. That’s why we have other companies that hire and fire people constantly or make other seemingly absurd decisions - the cost and benefit calculations change. There’s more money to be made in providing early deliveries, like one doctor said they would, than there is in sending patients (customers) on their way with no treatment and getting sued for it. Based on the hundreds of abortions that have happened in Missouri since the ban clearly other doctors think this is true.
B) Allowing abortion in all cases would be a fallacious and nightmarish way to handwave human life as expendable in the name of bodily autonomy.
You don’t want to kill people unnecessarily, do you? That would make you so callous as to be inhumane.