• Sam_Bass@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      Not in the way the repugs want it. Slavery will never be seen as beneficial to anyone despite how hard the repugs push that narrative

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        Chattel slavery in the US was absolutely enormously beneficial to a tiny sliver of uppercrust slaveholding assholes who got rich on the backs of their exploited human “property”. Fuck yes it was beneficial to these assholes. There’s an argument to be made that this is a big part of the reason why chattel slavery in the US lasted as long as it did – because it made (some people) a lot of money either directly by owning a plantation or indirectly by buying the cheap textiles and other good that came from those plantations

        Why the fuck am I even bothering writing this to some rando on the internet

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          I’ve heard it said that chattel slavery was more expensive than it would’ve been to just pay people poverty wages and let them fend for their own food and shelter. Dunno if it’s true or not. I imagine it also damages the mental health of the slave owners, and society as a whole.

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        7 hours ago

        What are you talking about? The world sees the USA’s exploitation of slaves as being HUGELY beneficial to their development. That’s not anyone’s problem with it?

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            Yeah, we should stop shoving history in kids’ faces at school!

            Also, stop shoving the English language, science and math in their faces!

            If they aren’t learning how to mine ore, what is even the point of school, am I right?

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                Weird how everyone here seemed to think otherwise.

                Also weird how you deleted the comment if that’s not what you meant.

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                  It’s called mob mentality, and is well known. And I don’t want to keep pointlessly dealing with judgy people who seek not to understand but only to damn, but sure I deleted it because I was so super racist and against education that I couldn’t help myself but I am also so cowardly that once people push back against my horrible views I cave immediately.

                  Excellent logic.

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                    Speaking of logic, who is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to “pointlessly deal” with “judgy people” who respond to your posts?

                    What has happened to your agency that would allow you to not respond to such posts if you so wished?

                    Is this a cry for help? Should we be contacting the authorities to resolve this hostage situation?

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            Seems like a non sequitur given the context was someone trying to deny that the USA benefited from slavery. If that is not the time, then when the fuck is?? Excuse my snark.

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              What a bizarre accusation to make. Lemmy is absolutely shit if this is what happens here. Next time just say you don’t understand and only want to judge. Jesus Christ, dude.

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          OK anyone that matters. Want to believe slavery is a good thing at alll? You don’t matter

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            You’re missing the point. Some modern Americans continue to benefit from historical slavery. Saying, “No one benefits from slavery,” is an attempt to deny that and avoid the moral responsibility that comes with those benefits.

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              The point is you are justifying slavery. You can scream its “virtues” all you want. Until that mindset disappears, and even if it disappears, I’m not changing my stance on it.

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                I’m not. I condemn slavery. Like holy shit, can you not assume that much?

                The problem with slavery isn’t that slavers don’t benefit! How can you sit there and say that slavers don’t benefit from the transaction? Why, then, would they do it?? Just to be dicks??

                You’re taking an ideological stance that you don’t fully understand and not considering what you are actually saying. The fact that people benefit from it doesn’t JUSTIFY it. Nothing can justify treating an intelligent creature as property. But that doesn’t mean someone didn’t make bank from it. That doesn’t mean that people alive today are not still benefiting from the tragedies of the past.