This is just the tip Americans, he’s about to give you all 4"
That’s giving him twice the credit Stormy did
They barely teach about it as it is. My daughter’s social studies textbook had page after page about Marbury v. Madison and two paragraphs about Harriet Tumbman.
It’s what the majority of white male voters want
)What Headline? Do you mean that text put over a picture?
Can’t have schools teaching about slavery in the land of the free. It just doesn’t fit with the theme.
you can’t?
Not in the way the repugs want it. Slavery will never be seen as beneficial to anyone despite how hard the repugs push that narrative
What are you talking about? The world sees the USA’s exploitation of slaves as being HUGELY beneficial to their development. That’s not anyone’s problem with it?
OK anyone that matters. Want to believe slavery is a good thing at alll? You don’t matter
You’re missing the point. Some modern Americans continue to benefit from historical slavery. Saying, “No one benefits from slavery,” is an attempt to deny that and avoid the moral responsibility that comes with those benefits.
The point is you are justifying slavery. You can scream its “virtues” all you want. Until that mindset disappears, and even if it disappears, I’m not changing my stance on it.
I’m not. I condemn slavery. Like holy shit, can you not assume that much?
The problem with slavery isn’t that slavers don’t benefit! How can you sit there and say that slavers don’t benefit from the transaction? Why, then, would they do it?? Just to be dicks??
You’re taking an ideological stance that you don’t fully understand and not considering what you are actually saying. The fact that people benefit from it doesn’t JUSTIFY it. Nothing can justify treating an intelligent creature as property. But that doesn’t mean someone didn’t make bank from it. That doesn’t mean that people alive today are not still benefiting from the tragedies of the past.
agreed
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Seems like a non sequitur given the context was someone trying to deny that the USA benefited from slavery. If that is not the time, then when the fuck is?? Excuse my snark.
That is absolutely not what that commenter was saying.
Shoving it in people’s faces? Just say you are racist, jesus christ dude
What a bizarre accusation to make. Lemmy is absolutely shit if this is what happens here. Next time just say you don’t understand and only want to judge. Jesus Christ, dude.
How is teaching about it shoving it in people’s faces?
I see nothing teacherly here
Yeah, we should stop shoving history in kids’ faces at school!
Also, stop shoving the English language, science and math in their faces!
If they aren’t learning how to mine ore, what is even the point of school, am I right?
Not what I said or meant in the least.
Weird how everyone here seemed to think otherwise.
Also weird how you deleted the comment if that’s not what you meant.
It’s called mob mentality, and is well known. And I don’t want to keep pointlessly dealing with judgy people who seek not to understand but only to damn, but sure I deleted it because I was so super racist and against education that I couldn’t help myself but I am also so cowardly that once people push back against my horrible views I cave immediately.
Excellent logic.
#LandOfTheFree
Why? The repugs have been nothing but a constant clown show for the last 20 years. Its only going to get more ludicrously insane now that there are more of them on the rolls
Those of you with some knowledge and basic video capabilities might consider doubling down on youtube, and using your channel to pimp other video platforms like peertube in case of youtube censorship.
Yeah, but have you considered that both sides bad?
This is business as usual, I was told, nothing would change, us shitlibs were just scaremongering about Trump.
Sure. But one side is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than the other
Naaaah, thats just the shitlibs talking. Or so i was told.
One side is open about their racism and sexism, the other side hides it. Which is worse to you?
Damn, they are so good hiding that they actually enqct policies to counteract their own racism and sexism.
Clearly they must be worse, because they want to take abortion rights away by granting them to women.
Can’t have those uppity workers understanding what you’re trying to inflict upon them…
They are probably still getting funds if they teach how positive and helpful slavery was to the victims, and how important slavery was for businesses to be profitable for the owners.
It makes them uncomfortable to talk about it. Or acknowledge it’s lingering effects. It’s much more uncomfortable for the people suffering the lingering effects. But that’s not what’s important./s
It doesn’t make them uncomfortable. They just don’t want people to know that they’re still doing it.
Still doing it / going to significantly ramp it up. Think those immigrants are ever getting out of the camps? Nah, they’ll just be free labor now. As will plenty of Americans.
Well that is why it makes them uncomfortable. People knowing what they’re doing:-)
Didn’t you hear? The past was always better, and Now is always the low ebb in the decline of our civilization until we return to the values that made yesterday great.
If the past is somehow to blame for the problems of today, that might mean there was something wrong with the past. If that’s the case, then maybe other things from the past have problems, including things that I like or benefit me personally, or that changing would imply a lot of big scary changes that I’m not ready for.
That’s why attempts to talk about little mistakes from the past like chattel slavery, indigenous genocide, phillipino genocide or endemic discrimination and institutionalized racism are just attempts by bad people to tear down perfection and keep us from returning to a simpler, better time where those mistakes never happened.
Also this: https://youtu.be/AeN_SVoJet0
I can’t believe the US is about to let illiberal “Christo” tyrants win without a fight. Should do as Jon Stewart said, play on their level and just don’t confirm the votes.
Trump doesn’t qualify for president, per the 14th amendment. I’m kind of pissed that the fucking constitution is being treated as novel law and not the foundation for our laws.
Which also shows the danger of the already eroding democracy…
But that is in an amendment so it only has to be followed 3/5ths of the way.
I’m actually really surprised we didn’t have a new lawsuit about his ability to take the oath of office. Not that it will actually matter but these Trump sycophants should have to state publication they don’t care what the law says.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61084161
None of that has been tried in a court since the supreme Court ruling. And insurrection isn’t even one of the charges in the indictment.
We can’t have a lawsuit about that till a ruling is handed down saying he did any of those things
Which the Republicans knew, so they just had to delay until he won again and can pardon/dismiss/fire Jack smith/etc
Nothing in the 14th section 3 says he must be charged with it even tried for insurrection. The Colorado trial court judge, after hearing all of the J6 evidence against Trump, found that he did engage in insurrection but did not remove him from the ballot. https://www.citizensforethics.org/news/press-releases/appeal-filed-in-colorado-14th-amendment-case/
The Colorado Supreme Court eventually ruled that he should be removed from the primary ballot.
SCOTUS did not take up the question of if Trump had participated in inspection, they only ruled that a state could not remove a candidate under the 14th section 3.
Source article?
There’s a lot but here’s a reasonable one:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-defund-schools-teach-155006275.html
“Let’s say… they just decide … ‘Oh, we’re gonna get rid of…history,” Kilmeade posed. “We got new history. This is America built off the backs of slaves on stolen land, and that curriculum comes in.”
“We don’t send them money,” Trump responded. “We would save half of our budget.”
So… Wait. I heard about the controversy with CRT, but what’s this? Are they really saying native Americans were treated fairly and slavery wasn’t a big part of the southern economy??
Gotta love how the faux host, Brian Kilmeade, is already implying that 'murica being built off the backs of slaves and stolen land is “new history” instead of factual history
I find there’s usually an angle, rather than the wholesale reinvention of history. So I wonder what they’re aiming for here? (Or really, is it a literal bare faced rewriting of history because that feels like a sad escalation)
If it were finding an “angle”, I suspect it’s going to be something like “native American tribes partnered with the colonies in their wars with each other, much of the land was bought in a voluntary way, only some of it was stolen etc”. And “it’s unfair to characterise the whole of America being built on slavery, state of Mississippi maybe, state of New York less so”. Or something like that.
I’ve no idea what numbers they’d pull out for either of these, or where the actual objective truth lies.
The “angle” is that slavery is very inconvenient for their world view. If you want to Make America Great Again you have to pick a time in the past when it was great. For most on the Right that means a time before the civil rights movement but for another huge segment on the Right it’s the time when the country was founded… They truly believe the Constitution was perfect after the Bill of Rights (when the 2nd Amendment was added).
There isn’t Just One Source article. It’s been nearly 4 years worth of articles. Across many different publications. Look up anything where conservatives mention woke. They use it as a code word. In context to mean either addressing issues of racial oppression and disparity. Or gender discrimination. Sometimes both in the same usage.
