wouldn’t this mean less profit? unless you steal all the tips
European here. Tipping is not already included in the price of the meal. Living wage is included in the price of the meal.
Tips is completely voluntary, if you think the service was excellent then you really just round up to the nearest nice round number (something like 22.85 becomes 25)
Tipping is not already included in the price of the meal. Living wage is included in the price of the meal.
That is the tip. In the US, “tipped” labor often has a reduced minimum wage, under the expectation that they make the difference up in tips.
My guy/gal/pal.
We do things differently in different parts of Europe.
You’re right, I made the same mistake as OP. There is no “European system of tipping”.
To add to that I’d say there’s no drama attached to not leaving a tip.
Totally, waiters don’t expect a tip at all. So if it’s given, it’s appreciated even more.
i you mean it, tip 10-15% of the bill! (often the “living wage” is still precarious.)
increase prices
people have to pay more money
How has no one thought of this
Saved.
What’s with the OP image? Seems to invite contempt, which corrodes the legitimacy of the message? I’m saddened by the decision-making ability of most artists these days.
Fuck off thats my William
does he top
The tipping culture is very rooted in Americans. I was at restaurant in Europe and there was a customer (certainly American). He ate during 30 minutes or less, the waiter was nice but he wasn’t doing it for tips and the customer only saw him when he ordered the food and at payment. The prices are high end.
When he paid he was surprised that there was no tipping options (unfortunately we started seeing them in some European countries) and asked him to pay another 10€ as a tip.
In Spain, a server was nice to us, and even though I know tipping isn’t necessary, I gave extra. The server returned the money and gave us tips of how not to get pick pocketed. I guess they think tippers are easily scammed.
I forgot the name of the restaurant though. We sat in the bar and we ordered a bunch of small dishes, like open sandwiches. It was really nice.
Tipping culture should die.
I’d rather have meals on the menu be what I pay. Include tax, service fees, and other garbage fees.
I went to Japanese restaurant in NYC. They took my card and they returned it. I asked about the tip. They said it was all included. Fucking dream.
Not being an American the whole idea of not including tax in the stated price just seems so alien. You expect me to work out what 12.5% of my bill is on the fly as I’m shopping? Fuck you, that’s your job. You are the one actually paying the tax to the government, you work it out
Also “They took my card”. That is apparently an American thing.
In Canada, they have the wireless chip readers everywhere. It was nice since a large chunk of stolen credit cards are when employees scan it before charging it.
Some places in the USA is starting to do the same thing. But yes, the US is way behind.
Hell we still sign a receipt an we only just got them chips recently
Do you guys still do the hilarious chip & sign thing or have you finally switched to using a PIN?
Yes, the former. This country mannnn
You think that’s hilarious? There are a lot of places in the world that still do a manual shhk-shhk of a card only a few years ago. Now that most cards don’t have raised digits, they’ll write it down. If they even take a card.
Places where the Internet goes down if it rains and there is no mobile service. Imagine the horror.
The other side of the coin - paying with debit (which has a pin) is stupid in the US. Unless you can’t control your spending, credit card is the way to go for every legal purchase you don’t mind being tied to you forever. CCs have far superior consumer protection than the law.
You are the one actually paying the tax to the government, you work it out
Also they would only have to do it once per item, shoppers have to do it every time!
Thia is where you should name and praise the restaurant
Sugarfish. They have to two in NYC. I’ve been to both.
All hail Kermit, the Japanese restaurant
Waiters are against it as they may get way more than if they were paid by the owner. Also they automatically get raises when menu prices increases.
What blows my mind is that American do tip everywhere and also give cash to some workers at the end of the year (mail man, garbage man,… Etc).
Waiters are against it as they get way more than if they were paid by the owner.
They’re not against it, and they don’t.
Source: was waiter for a decade
If you are paid $15/h that is 20% of $75. Don’t you think that the clients you will serve will pay way more than that during an hour?
See, I don’t need to think hypothetically. I lived it. This “you’ll akshually make more money this way” is the shit owners spout so they don’t have to pay you. Self-serving prop to feed those who don’t know better, simply and completely untrue.
I used to love looking at my negative dollar paychecks showing my paltry 2.13 didn’t even cover the fuggen taxes on my tips while the manager espoused that falsehood in the mandatory monthly meetings
You must have been paid very well as a waiter to do better than tips.
If youre interested, id be happy to detail the realtities of waiting tables. Here’s a big one non-waiters don’t always know: all your tips are claimed these days. Your gross tips are taxed, after which your tips are split (either required tip-out % or full tip pooling) between the other staff.
I have never worked a full service restaurant but I was at a huge pizza chain for 8 years, 6 as general manager. We only had the drivers report credit card tips and cash was left alone. They also didn’t tip out the kitchen. What has changed to make cash tips reported? Couldn’t you just lie about the amount?
When I moved cities I got a delivery job with a different company. It was fantastic. So much less volume, less stress, and the other drivers wanted to just chill and smoke weed so I would take most of the orders. A few times I broke $300 in tips on a 12+ hour shift if someone called off. Good money if you have a reliable car and put money back for when it inevitably needs repairs.
There is a korean place I love in a city in a neighboring state. Worth driving over an hour to get that sweet sweet meal with tax and tip included in the menu price
They took my card and they returned it
Welcome to 2000 ? I cant remember the last time i carried a card, wtf.
I have 1 credit card on my phone. I carry 1 debit card, my driver’s license, and about 4 other credit cards with me.
I really don’t like the idea of losing my phone and my only way of paying for things at the same time. At least if I lose my phone, I can still pay for stuff. If I lose my wallet, I can still use my phone to pay for stuff or to call.
I have a physical copy of my car insurance and I also have it on my phone.
There’s literally no profit? Like aside from already running a successful restaurant (hard), doing this will earn the business owner no extra income.
It is still based af because then the wait staff gets paid a lot more
OOP jokes, but I’ve went to one or two restaurants that tried to do that in the past. I deducted the pre-included tip from the optional tip, and then never went to those restaurants again
This has big “ill pay $20 if it has free shipping, but won’t pay $15 + $5 shipping” energy.
Id rather buy food from a restaurant that doesn’t need tipping and is more expensive because they pay their workers fair wage instead of a place where the workers feel like they have to do the food service equivalent of pan handling on the side of the street.
They get paid the same. One is less dehumanizing.
Leaving your wage up to a fickle customer is hell. Getting paid less because the cooks accidentally overcooked the customers steak so they felt like they werent “treated well” or some bs is ridiculous.
(The bottom half of this rant isnt aimed at you, but at tipping in general)
You both said the same thing. If tip is included in the price, then there is no need to tip additionally.
Yeah, fuck those restaurants for paying their workers a living wage! My wallet comes first!
for the cognitively impaired
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