If anyone wants to find a place to discuss illegal activities, it’s not so much that it’s impossible but it does sound like something better suited to an anarchist instance?
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So if people say “CEOs of private healthcare companies who cause the deaths of thousands of citizens for profit should face the same fate as the United Healthcare CEO”, is it acceptable or no? Real question, I don’t think it’s that clear from the rules.
Also, as those are the rules created by the Lemmy devs, I would really surprised if they prevented any action against CEOs
I’ll help out by clarifying: regardless of whether Discuss.Online allows such, I don’t want to be moderator of a community that would skirt the law so closely, so I don’t want it here in [email protected], at least under my moderatorship.
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I am actually getting quite nervous even meta-discussing this discussion of how people would discuss such matters. I am no lawyer, and I want to stay SO VERY FAR AWAY from the legal line that I don’t have to worry about whether - oopsie daisy! - it has been crossed or not. I already have stress in my irl and this isn’t helping! Our discussions of creating a place such as AskUSA predated all of this jury nullifcation topic, and I hoped merely to help provide a “welcoming” and “fun” and “safe” place for Americans to enjoy visiting - and I’m still offering to do all of that much - but the rest of this, is getting to be too much for me!? Sorry if I did not realize what you were ultimately pushing for - I’m not commenting on rightness vs. wrongness to want such here, just that I don’t think I can help you with fulfilling that desire, which especially in the upcoming changing legal landscape within the USA, is more than a little on the extreme end of what might even be theoretically possible (and quite possibly is not, legally speaking, or else may become so very very soon).
Furthermore, if Discuss.Online was itself okay with it, and someone else wanted to moderate it, then I’m totally okay to hand over this exact community to whoever would step up for such? (in that case… please tell me what buttons to press? I am new to the mod tools here and I don’t see that option, or maybe we’d need to get an admin involved? anyway I’m totally supportive of such if that’s what people wanted, so I could initiate a request to them in such a case?) I have no desire to “squat” this community name and outright prevent discussions that people feel like should be here.
Though if we want to keep AskUSA as light-hearted and fun, and to put politicaldiscussions@whereverelse, then that works too (in that case I still hope that people would join this community to help moderate it).
I hoped merely to help provide a “welcoming” and “fun” and “safe” place for Americans to enjoy visiting
As I said elsewhere, there’s a reason Ask and Casual communities both exist.
A list of questions that could be asked on AskUSA but would still be completely legal
US Americans, what are your worst experiences with your healthcare insurance?
US Americans, how big of a deal are school shootings in your daily lives? Is the media depiction overblown?
US Americans, how is life on minimum wage?
None of those questions would cross any rules, but they would make the community look serious and depressing, but also would allow people to talk about those serious matters.
The odd part is that I am not subscribed to any such community myself - not even the various Shower Thoughts ones:-). Occasionally I will run into such a post on All or such, and if there is a need then I am willing to help with something but the communities I tend to frequent on my own initiative are like [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], and the Fediverse “drama” communities.
Thank you for walking me through all of this. And now I see the appoint moderator button, on people’s accounts, so I should be ready to implement it when it happens:-).
Quoting myself from another comment
I just had a look at https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html to check
So if people say “CEOs of private healthcare companies who cause the deaths of thousands of citizens for profit should face the same fate as the United Healthcare CEO”, is it acceptable or no? Real question, I don’t think it’s that clear from the rules.
Also, as those are the rules created by the Lemmy devs, I would really surprised if they prevented any action against CEOs
I’ll help out by clarifying: regardless of whether Discuss.Online allows such, I don’t want to be moderator of a community that would skirt the law so closely, so I don’t want it here in [email protected], at least under my moderatorship.
– the additional, irrelevant details –
I am actually getting quite nervous even meta-discussing this discussion of how people would discuss such matters. I am no lawyer, and I want to stay SO VERY FAR AWAY from the legal line that I don’t have to worry about whether - oopsie daisy! - it has been crossed or not. I already have stress in my irl and this isn’t helping! Our discussions of creating a place such as AskUSA predated all of this jury nullifcation topic, and I hoped merely to help provide a “welcoming” and “fun” and “safe” place for Americans to enjoy visiting - and I’m still offering to do all of that much - but the rest of this, is getting to be too much for me!? Sorry if I did not realize what you were ultimately pushing for - I’m not commenting on rightness vs. wrongness to want such here, just that I don’t think I can help you with fulfilling that desire, which especially in the upcoming changing legal landscape within the USA, is more than a little on the extreme end of what might even be theoretically possible (and quite possibly is not, legally speaking, or else may become so very very soon).
Furthermore, if Discuss.Online was itself okay with it, and someone else wanted to moderate it, then I’m totally okay to hand over this exact community to whoever would step up for such? (in that case… please tell me what buttons to press? I am new to the mod tools here and I don’t see that option, or maybe we’d need to get an admin involved? anyway I’m totally supportive of such if that’s what people wanted, so I could initiate a request to them in such a case?) I have no desire to “squat” this community name and outright prevent discussions that people feel like should be here.
Though if we want to keep AskUSA as light-hearted and fun, and to put politicaldiscussions@whereverelse, then that works too (in that case I still hope that people would join this community to help moderate it).
I hope this helps paint a vision moving forward?
As I said elsewhere, there’s a reason Ask and Casual communities both exist.
A list of questions that could be asked on AskUSA but would still be completely legal
None of those questions would cross any rules, but they would make the community look serious and depressing, but also would allow people to talk about those serious matters.
From what you are saying, you should probably handle a more laid-back CasualUSA community, similar to [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected]
You can probably open a post to call moderators to take over AskUSA, and open CasualUSA in parallel
The odd part is that I am not subscribed to any such community myself - not even the various Shower Thoughts ones:-). Occasionally I will run into such a post on All or such, and if there is a need then I am willing to help with something but the communities I tend to frequent on my own initiative are like [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], and the Fediverse “drama” communities.
So, are you OK to open !casualUSA, and try to find some help for !askUSA? :-)
https://discuss.online/post/14195662
I’ll wait to hear the answer before making casualUSA, in case nobody is willing to do the more serious one.
Thank you for the post!
Thank you for walking me through all of this. And now I see the appoint moderator button, on people’s accounts, so I should be ready to implement it when it happens:-).
Nice!