• kreskin@lemmy.world
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      Was it accompanied by a tugboat I hope? Those ships dont tend to be very well built, leak oil and pollute a lot, and rescue efforts for broken down Russian ships arent cheap. They should pay a deposit for entering Finnish waters with that garbage scow.

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      Amusingly, the Baltic fleet doesn’t have anything larger than a frigate.

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        Do you really need anything bigger? Costal missile batteries have a good reach, passive sonar can hear pretty much everything and planes/radar can pinpoint anything on the surface.

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          It’s fine for patrols, but it wouldn’t accomplish much in an actual conflict. They carry a few Kinzhals and otherwise only a few torpedoes AFAIK. Compared to the German “”“Frigates”“” and RN frigates carrying Harpoons and more, it isn’t a strong match-up. The USN also tends to have at least one amphibious assault ship in the Baltic at any given time.

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            It’s a big, mostly shallow, very polluted puddle with NATO aircrafts and batteries on every shore. Why would you need a big target in middle of that.

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          They were using oil tankers that were designed for river use on the black sea. Three of them snapped in two leaving a huge oil slick which they’re not bothering to clean up.

          Then, a cargo ship on route to Syria to evacuate russian bases of equipment had its engine explode near Spain. That ship sank leaving the Spanish to rescue the crew.

          The first case is using an inappropriate vessel. The second case appears to be that ships in this shadow fleet are no longer visiting any ports apart from russian ones and so don’t need to have their paperwork in shape. No paperwork means no maintenance. No maintenance means engine go boom.