White flight is a term that describes how white people move out of neighborhoods when more people of color move in. White flight is especially common when minority populations become the majority. That neighborhood then declines in value.
Male flight describes a similar phenomenon when large numbers of females enter a profession, group, hobby or industry—the men leave. That industry is then devalued.
In 1969 almost all veterinary students were male at 89%.
By 1987, male enrollment was equal to female at 50%.1
By 2009, male enrollment in veterinary schools had plummeted to 22.4%
A sociologist studying gender in veterinary schools, Dr. Anne Lincoln says that in an attempt to describe this drastic drop in male enrollment, many keep pointing to financial reasons like the debt-to-income ratio or the high cost of schooling.
But Lincoln’s research found that “men and women are equally affected by tuition and salaries.”
Her research shows that the reason fewer men are enrolling in veterinary school boils down to one factor: the number of women in the classroom.
“There was really only one variable where I found an effect, and that was the proportion of women already enrolled in vet med schools… So a young male student says he’s going to visit a school and when he sees a classroom with a lot of women he changes his choice of graduate school. That’s what the findings indicate…. what’s really driving feminization of the field is ‘preemptive flight’—men not applying because of women’s increasing enrollment.” - Dr. Anne Lincoln
For every 1% increase in the proportion of women in the student body, 1.7 fewer men applied. One more woman applying was a greater deterrent than $1000 in extra tuition!
I’m curious about how many people aren’t getting a higher education due to the costs and lack of any guaranteed success.
I wouldn’t mind going back to school again. But all my peers who went (including myself) found it hard to find work after graduation. Some people I went to school with didn’t find work related to our field, and some went back to retail.
My job is only loosely related to web development, and I’m frustrated with it. Honestly, at this point, I don’t know what to do. I’m tempted to just attempt to figure out a cheap way to live and then just work like 20 hours a week or something. I don’t see the point of working just to barely get by. Working for someone else’s benefit is a waste of life.
Work should actually benefit us. Not just allow us to survive.
I’m tempted to just attempt to figure out a cheap way to live and then just work like 20 hours a week or something.
Not a bad idea.
Do like the Saudis: aim to work 1 hour a week, for a 6 figure salary.
LOL if it were only that easy. I actually don’t mind working. Especially if it’s something I care about or feel like I’m making a difference in my community. I would also like to be treated like a human being and compensated fairly, but like, that’s a unicorn of a job
As we’ve seen with teachers, nurses and interior design, once an institution is majority female, the public perception of its value plummets.
Hm. I wonder if it’s related to how women perceive men in those trades too. A friend of my is in Uni and she thinks all male nurse students are gay. And feminine. And definitely not good providers.
That’s funny for me to think about. The only two people I know in Healthcare are a nurse and a paramedic.
They are both manly and have great qualities that I would associate with being a “ideal man”.
They are providing for their families, can handle stress in intense situations. Both are calm, collected and handsome too.
I know the article is mostly about careers, but do we have statistics on what areas white men are fleeing? I’m one myself, but the thought of affordable housing free of racists…
This is what I have been saying for a long time: The essence of being male is to not be female.
If we can’t manage to change that core value of practically all manhood (that I have experience with or talked about with people) there is little hope for sex & gender equality, equity and justice.
How? No clue!
This is what I have been saying for a long time: The essence of being male is to not be female.
I’m not sure what you mean by this, would you mind elaborating ?
Someone 2100 years ago explained it already:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catullus_16#Latin_text_and_translation
I think that they’re talking about the wholesale rejection of all that is feminine. Especially growing up, any boy that demonstrated any kind of feminine traits or who was not “all boy” was ridiculed. That’s what needs to change. Any weakness ridiculed, any sensitivity crushed… It’s a wonder that there are any kind men at all.
That would imply an “essence” of masculinity that was not defined by it’s lack of femininity.
That somebody would be pushed towards an ideal of masculinity and dissuaded from an ideal of femininity implies that both exist.
Not necessarily completely separate, but still existing at least partially individually.
I’m still confused over what is meant by
The essence of being male is to not be female.
Perhaps I’m missing something obvious or i have some bias getting in the way of my understanding.
Boys are trained to avoid doing anything “girly”. It is everything from being encouraged toward military service to being socialized to be unhygenic on purpose or being trained never to cry. But people NEED safety, cleanliness, and vulnerability, those are human qualities. Boy and manhood is becoming increasingly detached from humanity to some. Most well adjusted people will realize everyone has feminine and masculine aspects and EVERYONE has basic human needs like… to cry when bad things happen.
For boys like Andrew Tate, Ben Shapiro, etc femininity is abhorrent, so masculinity has become an increasingly bitter imposition. What matters to them is defining themselves outside of femininity and any attempt to deduce what masculinity is or can be are irrelevant outside of that. Its the result of seeing sex as a caste system they’re at the top of. Queers and college professors come shaking the trees and they don’t want to fall out. So now manhood more than ever is about fucking loathing women and gays.
I somewhat agree with most of that, that particular brand of toxic masculinity is gaining traction and that is a problem.
Let’s not pretend that this is new though, almost the entirety of modern western civilization has been patriarchal to a fairly extreme degree, this is just the latest flavour.
I’m not dismissing the current problems with all of that, just pointing out that the problem of enforced gender/sex specific division isn’t new these are just the latest grifters, it’s also not specific to men ,with differing problems for all sides.
This is a systemic societal problem and will almost certainly need solutions that acknowledge that, otherwise you are treating only the symptoms.
None of which is an actual answer to my original question.
I’m curious if this hypothesis extends to European and Asian higher education enrollment trends.
I am a cis-het white male who entered a STEAM Master’s program that was 98% women. I didn’t feel like that was an issue because I was passionate about education, and the subject matter but it is extremely saddening to consider higher education is being pink-collared and devalued
Behold. It is him, the Steam Master! (sorry but that typo kinda cracked me up)
Not a typo. It was a STEM field that involved Art.
Ah thanks for clarifying I didn’t know that abbreviation before
Women are already entering the trades. Where will men go after women become a noticeable portion of the trades work force?
My first thought is that men are scaring themselves into a corner that is the open arms of military recruiters.
That’s why they’re building the mars ships
They just want to go back home.
