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Don_Dickle@lemmy.world to Explain Like I'm Five@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

My younger brother keeps saying he is an Alpha male and bad mouths who he thinks are Beta. Can some one please explain to me what the hell is going on?

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My younger brother keeps saying he is an Alpha male and bad mouths who he thinks are Beta. Can some one please explain to me what the hell is going on?

Don_Dickle@lemmy.world to Explain Like I'm Five@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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  • I'll be on [email protected]@sh.itjust.works
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    Your brother is on a (specifically designed and heavily funded) pipeline to being a total piece of shit (not just with misogyny, but racism, and probably queerphobia and ableism too), do what you can to get him off it. A quick search brings up what looks to be some good info to start you off:

    Manosphere

    Misogynistic influencers are trending right now. Defusing their message is a complex task

    De-radicalising incels out of the ‘manosphere’ through Reddit

    Making a Radical Misogynist: How Online Social Engagement with the Manosphere Influences Traits of Radicalization

    Swallowing and spitting out the red pill: young men, vulnerability, and radicalization pathways in the manosphere

    Exiting the Manosphere

    There are also many youtube videos on the subject, though I haven’t watched any recently, so I won’t link, but look up something along the lines of “manosphere right wing pipeline” and you should see some results.

    • jordanlund@lemmy.world
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      The Alt-Right Playbook videos are an also must watch, starting here:

      https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g

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      Fucking hell, I had to scroll all the way down here to find an answer that isn’t complete garbage.

      • The Ramen Dutchman@ttrpg.network
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        Good news, they’re top comment, now!

  • Forester@pawb.social
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    Every time he says it ask him if that’s a furry thing.

  • Count Regal Inkwell@pawb.social
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    Kick him in the nuts so hard you remove him from the gene pool permanently.

  • masquenox@lemmy.world
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    Your brother is being recruited by the fascists. That is what is going on.

  • HollowNaught@lemmy.world
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    Ask him if being an alpha male is a furry thing

    • Chip_Rat@lemmy.world
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      Skip a step and just buy him some furry romance novel like “alpha of my heart” or whatever (I will not be googling for options, no shame but I don’t need that in my history)

      Give it to him and tell him you support him and he’s really brave to be himself in front of you and others.

    • parrhesia@sh.itjust.works
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      Also if he likes werewolf romance novels

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    Tell him calling himself an alpha is just what a beta would do. Real alphas don’t say shit about themselves, they have people who do that for them. Watch him implode.

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      “Any man who must say ‘I am king’ is no true king at all.”

    • Delphia@lemmy.world
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      Im a Sugma male.

      • ShepherdPie@midwest.social
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        Not a Ligma male?

        • Pandantic [they/them]@midwest.social
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          Or a Smegma male?

  • Ledivin@lemmy.world
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    “Alpha male” basically translates to toxic masculinity, and “beta male” basically translates to anyone who respects other people in any way. It’s the callsign of pieces of shit like Andrew Tate, who is a human trafficker and serial sexual abuser currently in prison awaiting trial in… I think it was Croatia?

    He doesn’t know what it means to be cool, so he’s hoping that just declaring that he’s cool will be good enough to make him popular.

    The problem is that the kids who try this strategy almost universally cannot pick up on social cues, otherwise they would understand that it will always lead to the opposite result. People who seriously say out loud that they’re alpha males are pretty much exclusively losers or scumbags.

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      Romania?

    • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I think it was Croatia?

      Romania

  • MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net
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    • Tiefling IRL@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Alpha males are like alpha versions of software

    • hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      neutron male 😎

  • protist@mander.xyz
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    If you want advice on how to handle this: ask questions. Ask them calmly and without any judgment. Be genuinely curious.

    “What makes him a ‘beta male?’”

    “What characteristics do you admire most in ‘alpha males?’”

    “What characteristics do you think you have?”

    “Where’d you learn about all this?”

    Don’t ask them in rapid fire, pepper a question in here and there over time.

    • Delphia@lemmy.world
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      Alternatively refer to him only as “Cuck” until he stops acting like a fuckwit.

      • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
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        No cuck shaming please.

        • Delphia@lemmy.world
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          What are they gonna do about it? Get someone to defend their kinks better than they can while they jerk off in the corner?

          • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
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            Dunno, but your fixation on defending the use of a kink as an insult soulds pretty assholeish. You do you.

            • Delphia@lemmy.world
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              Ok, in fairness the second comment was a dumb joke. But I fight stupid bigots with stupid bigotry. Its more entertaining for me than trying logic and reason because as we have seen time and time again from Trumpists it plain doesnt fucking work. Fuck them, if I have to be mad listening to their dribble, Im gonna make them madder.

              Someone constantly spouting off about being an Alpha will hate a dismissive “shut up cuck” and being walked off on so much more than actually respecting their stance by arguing it with logic.

        • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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          Cucks are kinda into that though…

  • boaratio@lemmy.world
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    Andrew Tate.

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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      You mean Gollum

      • Boomkop3@reddthat.com
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        yes

  • roofuskit@lemmy.world
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    Get him off YouTube and social media

    • Dkarma@lemmy.world
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      This is the right answer.

  • CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world
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    He’s watching toxic YouTubers like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate.

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    Anyone who has to vocalize that they’re an alpha, isn’t. Your brother is a loser.

    • mycelium underground@lemmy.world
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      If you have to say you’re in charge, you’re not

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    Just tell him that alpha and beta thing does not exist in the wild. Even the author said so.

    https://phys.org/news/2021-04-wolf-dont-alpha-males-females.html

    It does not apply to humans. Are you saying your brother is a wolf? Is he a furry perhaps?

    Humans are more complex than that.

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      Also doesn’t apply to wolves, the original researcher just mistook a parent protecting her kids for an aggressive male

    • Fades@lemmy.world
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      Yeah that argument has never dissuaded a single chud from embracing in the “alpha” bullshit. They’re being fed this bs from manosphere manipulators like Andrew Tate or someone adjacent or from peers. Their goal is to become cool and intimidating, it’s not about the bad research that lifted up this bullshit myth so long ago.

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    Young men who start to behave this way are lacking direction and aren’t self-starters. So to cope with the fact they aren’t accomplishing anything or going anywhere in life, they assume an outwardly-accusing posture.

    Contrary to the image peddled by the grifters, every guy I’ve known with the “alpha” mentality has been a dishwasher, car porter, snow shoveler, or unemployed cretin.

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