Producers would not produce meat if nobody bought it. There’s a direct causal link between the two. Just because this specific cow didn’t die for you to specifically eat it doesn’t remove the link between your choice and the death.
iPhones also weren’t produced with the hopes that people would buy them, Apple did extensive market research. Had they found that people wouldn’t buy them, they wouldn’t have produced them. Have you ever looked into how product development happens?
Then everything for the future is purely hope. You eat a steak? I sure hope it doesn’t turn into lava in your stomach! You enter a car? Better hope it doesn’t turn into a crocodile and swallow you!
Must be a strange life you’re leading, but anything you can tell yourself to ease your conscience. Surely the same number of cows would be killed if nobody ate any meat, they could always hope that tomorrow people start again!
I bought a PlayStation. Sony isn’t going to put it back into production, despite proven demand.
producers are free agents, so the only phenomenon that can be said to cause their actions is their own will.
Producers would not produce meat if nobody bought it. There’s a direct causal link between the two. Just because this specific cow didn’t die for you to specifically eat it doesn’t remove the link between your choice and the death.
At least that’s my non-vegan perspective.
iphones were produced before anyone bought one. producers can’t know whether a product will sell in the future.
iPhones also weren’t produced with the hopes that people would buy them, Apple did extensive market research. Had they found that people wouldn’t buy them, they wouldn’t have produced them. Have you ever looked into how product development happens?
it was still hope. they couldn’t possibly know the future.
No, it’s not hope, it’s market research and statistics. You do understand the difference, right?
they don’t know the future. they hope their research is correct.
Then everything for the future is purely hope. You eat a steak? I sure hope it doesn’t turn into lava in your stomach! You enter a car? Better hope it doesn’t turn into a crocodile and swallow you!
Must be a strange life you’re leading, but anything you can tell yourself to ease your conscience. Surely the same number of cows would be killed if nobody ate any meat, they could always hope that tomorrow people start again!
cows were killed before anybody bought meat. there is no reason to believe that will stop even if you stop buying it.
to an extent you’re right, but I understand the laws of physics. markets are not dictated by anything like the laws of physics.
This is a silly sophistry and you know it is. Demand is what incentivizes supply.
the theory of supply and demand is a price discovery theory. it’s not an immutable law about when factories turn on production.
your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith.
Fair enough. Others will judge for themselves.