No, it’s not like stealing a physical item from a store.

“stealing” a digital copy of a movie, tv show or a game is like if the item you’re stealing from a store is infinitely copyable. Like the replicator from star trek…or that one episode of Sabrina the teenage witch with that box that can make a perfect copy of everything you put inside of it.

Of course I personally would never pirate anything, no matter how much streaming services increase their prices or how much they crack down on VPN usage to get around geo-restrictions, PIRACY IS BAD AND ONLY BAD PEOPLE DO IT.

I’ve never pirated anything in my whole life!

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    It is always morally acceptable?

    Morality is, literally, subjective. There is no universal answer to that question.

    I personally consider anything being sold by a distributor to be fair game, no questions asked. If I pay for mainstream music, films or games, most of the time, zero of that money goes to the workers who created those artworks. It just makes rich owners richer, because they legally own rights. I would go as far as to say it’s morally wrong to pay for those things, it’s not neutral, it’s supporting a cycle of abuse at your own expense. So that’s my perspective on your ‘giant corporations’ question.

    Digital copying isn’t stealing, unfortunately, because those giant companies deserve to have their hoard of capital expropriated.

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    It is always morally preferrable to pirate things made by giant corporations

    Fixed It For You.

    Regardless of what is regarded as a crime against the state, it is wrongdoing against the public to support corporations that seek to extract more wealth than value they produce.

    Intellectual property rights were a (very) temporary monopoly to give creators an incentive to create in order to build a robust public domain.

    Copyrights, patents and trademarks no longer do that. So charging for content is now rent-seeking

    Corporations, their share holders and the plutocrats who own them pull wealth out of the economy by hoarding it. The whenever you buy from anything but directly from the creator, you are reducing the wealth in the economy since your money goes straight into Scrooge McDuck’s swimming coffers.

    And our public domain only contains stuff from a century ago. Steamboat Willie became public domain just a year or two ago. Copyright holders and courts even assert all content should be owned and licensed, including SCOTUS. (Though the US Supreme Court is a traitor to the United States and its constitution.)

    Pirate everything. Steal from companies for they have already stolen from you.

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    No but i dont care

    I’ve been pirating for years. I just don’t want to pay for things

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    My moral is always on match with that of the company so in most cases everything is acceptable.

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    No, it’s not like stealing a physical item from a store.

    I’d argue stealing physical items from massive corporations is also morally acceptable. If you shoplift from a small mom & pop store, you’re actively hurting your community, however, if you shoplift from Wal-Mart, you’re actively hurting an entity which is hurting your community, therefore helping your community.

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      Shoplifting from Walmart hurts my knees because the boss won’t believe that our onhand numbers are wrong and makes me check high and low before I can nil pick it 🥲

      This isn’t an ethical argument against shoplifting btw, this is an ethical argument in favor of nuking Walmart

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      If you shoplift from a small mom & pop store, you’re actively hurting your community

      Unless you’re part of a riot, then it’s okay.

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    perhaps the only ethical consumption under capitalism is that which denies capitalists their profit.

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        I mean…if the movie is good you should support it

        What is ‘it’? The movie is a published work, it can’t be financially supported. Who is being supported with the money you pay?

        Vote with your wallet.

        Unfortunately, consumer boycott (and conversely, support) usually isn’t an effective strategy at this scale you’re talking about. Unless you and all your friends are voting with a few thousand dollars, it’s hardly going to make a dent in the numbers.

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    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. If buying isn’t owning, then pirating can’t be stealing.

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    The number of examples of media becoming unreachable to paying consumers keeps growing.

    Warner Brothers (Max) is the greatest example of this. Years of content from Cartoon Network just disappeared, leaving the consumer no legal avenue to enjoy some of their favorite shows.

    I do not advocate for piracy. I advocate for archiving.

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      I do not advocate for piracy. I advocate for archiving.

      Exactly. And if the assholes make it illegal for librarians, well then yo ho ho.

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    When you download music online for free and prevent the company from making a profit off of a creative work by the artist, that they prevented from making a profit & royalties, is that wrong? Doubtful. You can always send the artist money directly if you want to support them.

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      the DMCA doesn’t protect the artists or any of the singers, it protects the shitty record labels and the money that the executives at those companies get

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    I would like to suggest an alternate perspective, that digital media be beholden to protocols not platforms.

    In other words lets focus on the drivers of competition…most evidence suggests that piracy goes down in response to easily accessible and affordable market conditions.

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      most evidence suggests that piracy goes down in response to easily accessible and affordable market conditions.

      The assholes know this too. We’re about due for another round of deshitifcation, just long enough to restore complacency.

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    Stealing a physical item from a giant corporate store is also always morally acceptable.

    Having power neurologically suppresses empathy. Therefor resources controlled by the powerful will on average be used more harmfully. Taking resources from the powerful reduces total harm done.

    You will use a loaf of bread less harmfully than Walmart will use the profit from it.

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      Stealing a physical item from a giant corporate store is also always morally acceptable.

      not really, it makes the store lock everything up behind plexiglass creating more friction for paying customers too.

      Of course, theft wouldn’t happen nearly as much if no one was desperate the survive, but even then there’d still be entitled assholes that want even more.