• SavvyWolf@pawb.social
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    He’s just into war reenactment and also expressing that his heart went out to him (/s).

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    Normalizing fascism.

    The sooner we accept we’ve reached that stage, the sooner we can do something about it.

    I’m not holding my breath.

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      Start calling them Nazis and Nazi sympathizers, to start.

      Honestly, the simple act of doing that has calmed a lot of the dissonance in my brain.

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    I’m a little worried about the distraction this is causing, distraction away from taking real action that can help. Like, felon and nazi are real and useful predictive attributes, but we kind of already knew some of that.

    I feel like a better focus would be on taking action - donation, volunteerism, things your class valedictorian would do - to counter actual harmful or evil changes that are made in actual legislation. It sucks to have to prop up things that make America actually great ourselves because narrow minded politicians cut public funding. But to keep these things alive, we have to step up.

    We already made our predictions known. Deep down we already know this isn’t convincing anybody new. The next step is taking action. Local non-profits want to hear from you. If it’s a cause that you think might be threatened, and you care about it, you might be able to help.

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          I don’t know where you got that opinion from. An echo chamber is an echo chamber and I think it’s a shame regardless of which flavour it is.

          I’m here for open debate and freedom of expression, knowing that will mean having to see and read things I don’t like every now and again.

          If other people want to block other users up to the point there’s no one else that has a different opinion to them, then they absolutely can do that but I thinks it’s just being an ostrich that sticks it’s head in the sand.

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              I consider my self a lefty, but I think it’s important to consider all points of view, especially when I disagree with them.

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                You can consider the nazi point of view (do you really need to though?) without defending nazis’ right to spew their bullshit.

                And let’s face it, even if lemmy was 100% leftists, the rest of the world is fascist as fuck so it’ll never be an echo chamber.

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                  The only speech I don’t defend is hate speech. Everything else must be fair game, no matter how much I personally don’t like it or how much I disagree.

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          I don’t like Trump or Musk, I just keep my head when all else about are losing theirs.

          Enjoy your echo chamber, must be nice when there’s no-one that has a different opinion or disagrees with you.

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            “You just don’t like people with different opinions about what types of humans should be eradicated. Not me, willing to have all sorts of conversations about ranking people in terms of who is subhuman.”

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              I think there’s a difference between blocking people that use hate speech and blocking those who you simply disagree with but I don’t know why I keep bothering to try explaining myself.

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                When one of the opinions is Nazi one, it stops being “simple disagreement”. You can’t simply disagree with a nazi on any topic. It needs to be shameful, maybe even dangerous to be a nazi, nobody should ever take them seriously and have conversations with them, there is no other ways to deal with that ideology. It feeds on hate and idiocy.

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            Enjoy your echo chamber, must be nice when there’s no-one that has a different opinion or disagrees with you.

            So how I feel about this depends somewhat on which platform I’m on, but why do some try to paint it as a virtue to allow ourselves to be surrounded by toxicity?

            I can be aware of what is happening in the world and engaged with people who have different opinions than I have without having to let them pollute the places where I just want to be able to exist without harassment and assholery. I can also make different decisions about how insular I want to be on one platform vs another. I don’t have to let those people into my life, and I frankly find it kind of offensive when folks suggest that I or others are somehow missing out by not letting them in.

            No one should feel obligated to let themselves be the target of hateful rhetoric or comments that hurt them or bring negativity into their lives. Choosing to allow that is a valid choice, but it’s not necessarily a healthy one, and choosing not to allow it is a reasonable choice for people to make for themselves for the sake of their own health or happiness.

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              I agree that there is a huge difference between blocking hate (who the site should be blocking anyway due to breaching the community guidelines) and blocking someone you simply disagree with or are offended by.

              When it comes to being offended it’s different, we can all agree that hate shouldn’t be tolerated, but offence is in the eye of the beholder.

              I could block any users that I find to be offensive and live in a lovely online community where everyone agrees with me but I personally don’t want a community that doesn’t reflect the real world and I find it mentally unhealthy to pretend that offensive people and/or people with different points of view don’t exist.

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      Same, I saw the still image and thought, “oh this is like where they grab a still of them waving then are like ‘look! Obama doing the Nazi salute!’”

      Nope. Video was one of the most emphatic Nazi salutes I’ve ever seen. Twice!

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    I have changed nothing, and like a lightswitch every fucking post in almost every goddammit community seems to be about nazis and us politics to some new extreme degree.

    Jesus fucking christ. Doomscrolling and endlessly worrying about it all is fucking toxic as shit. It is what it is. If people are so concerned and think it needs to change then get off the fucking phone and go DO something about it, or stop posting this kind of shit.

    Gets so fucking old so fast.

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      I have changed nothing,

      Yeah, it’s almost like this isn’t about you. It’s almost like it’s about a major world power openly embracing fascism and neo nazis.

      Get off the internet if it bothers you.

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      Well, go do something about the Nazis and people will stop talking about them. If you want a feed to the world outside of your head, thay means dealing what what everyone else is talking about.

      You can always just go jerk off in the shower and STFU about it

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        I’m sorry, we’re you in DC this week knocking down the white house doors and throwing molotovs?

        Right. Shut up. You ain’t doing jack shit either.

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      Sometimes I can’t understand why I’m so joyless and cynical, then I read some of the comments on Lemmy and feel a lot better about myself!

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    Sorry, but red shirt does have a point. People have been called a Nazi so many times because of small disagreements that now that we have musk make heil hitler signs, people actually wonder if he’s really a neo nazi or not.

    People should keep the “nazi” label for the real assholes

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      Red shirt needs merely to turn around and see the brown shirt with the swastika. There isn’t a lot of grey area for interpretation of this comic, the artist is being very clear.

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      Voicing concerns as the republicans slowly claimed their way towards fascism is not the same as an imagined wolf.

      The allegory would be watching a wolf circle the chickens but idiots dismissing it because then wolf hasn’t killed any chickens yet.

      But that didn’t work as well for wolf sympathizer like you.

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        Mostly what I see are pedants who keep arguing that actually it’s a coyote circling the chickens, and that calling it a wolf de-legitimizes actually crying wolf, and that wolves had a very specific platform, and all the while the coyote is getting closer to the fucking henhouse.

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      This isn’t the same as The Boy Cried Wolf.

      Unless you’re talking about a version of the story where there really were wolves every time he cried wolf and nobody believed him until the wolves were eating people.

      Still not a perfect analogy but much closer.

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        why has the “n” word never lost its strength as an oppressive word?

        Tbf, it has to an extent, hence the “A” VS “hard R” distinction. The power was taken back as they say through repeated usage, some would call overuse, by the community who is allowed to say it. Other communities still aren’t allowed to say it sure, but it did contextually lose power through overuse.