Article: https://proton.me/blog/deepseek

Calls it “Deepsneak”, failing to make it clear that the reason people love Deepseek is that you can download and it run it securely on any of your own private devices or servers - unlike most of the competing SOTA AIs.

I can’t speak for Proton, but the last couple weeks are showing some very clear biases coming out.

  • the_swagmaster@lemmy.zipEnglish
    365·
    2 days ago

    I don’t think they are that biased. They say in the article that ai models from all the leading companies are not private and shouldn’t be trusted with your data. The article is focusing on Deepseek given that’s the new big thing. Of course, since it’s controlled by China that makes data privacy even less of a thing that can be trusted.

    Should we trust Deepseek? No. Should we trust OpenAI? No. Should we trust anything that is not developed by an open community? No.

    I don’t think Proton is biased, they are explaining the risks with Deepseek specifically and mention how Ai’s aren’t much better. The article is not titled “Deepseek vs OpenAI” or anything like that. I don’t get why people bag on proton when they are the biggest privacy focused player that could (almost) replace google for most people!

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      1 day ago

      Exactly.

      Also, none of the article applies if you run the model yourself, since the main risk is whatever the host does with your data. The model itself has no logic.

      I would never use a hosted AI service, but I would probably use a self hosted one. We are trying a few models out at work and we’re hosting it ourselves.

      • oktoberpaard@lemm.eeEnglish
        21·
        8 hours ago

        A quote from the article:

        DeepSeek is open source, meaning you can modify code(new window) on your own app to create an independent — and more secure — version. This has led some to hope that a more privacy-friendly version of DeepSeek could be developed.

        This is just plain wrong. The model doesn’t contain the privacy unfriendly logic and can be used freely and unmodified. In fact, there are plenty of other platforms available right now where you can use it that are not Chinese.

        This article makes fair points, if you ignore the fact that they don’t know what they’re talking about. You need to fix the errors in your head while reading it for it to make sense. If you don’t have the knowledge to do that, the whole article is a bit misleading.

      • the_swagmaster@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        True, hosting deepseek yourself is much better. I’d still wait and see if anyone finds weird stuff in the code itself but tbh idk how long that could take.

        Can’t wait for the models to get better and hopefully stay open source!

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          1 day ago

          weird stuff in the code

          What code? We use a different runner for the model so we can run multiple different AI models, so the only thing we’re getting from DeepSeek is the model.