Summary
California officials warned that Trump’s order to release massive amounts of water nearly caused severe flooding for farmers.
Trump boasted about the move, claiming it would help fight wildfires, but experts said the water couldn’t reach affected areas, which are over 200 miles away.
The Army Corps of Engineers initially planned to release water at maximum capacity but scaled back after urgent pushback.
Experts warned the water could have been better used months later for irrigation.
He is a complete moron. He is wrong about literally everything and it is pathetic.
Why did that shooter have to miss?
Because it was a stunt to make the fat orange idiot look like a hero.
He didn’t miss, he hit people in the crowd.
It’s about what I expect from conservative shooters. Shooting everyone except the people who should be shot.
People who would have supported this.
Everyday I curse him for missing
damn bruh, it’s like he’s trying to fuck the country in order to please a foreign adversary and spare himself an unpleasant fate.
trying to fuck the country
No just the blue states who dont like him
Edit: keyword “trying.” Hes trying to fuck the blue states. yall down voting me into oblivion like trump doesnt have a clear vendetta against calfiornia. Yea, hes hurting the whole country as collateral damage, but lets not pretend that parts on purpose. Hes an idiot who has never understood the ramifications of his decisions. This orange turd see and opportunity to hurt california , and he takes it becuase its California, not because hes smart enough to understand
Edit 2: in this same thread is a Comment that says “hes just trying to destroy california” with clear upvotes. Has lemmy become the reddit hive mind already? Sheesh
Destroying the nation’s food supply by flooding fields, deporting the workers, and imposing tarrifs on outside sources of food is objectively bad for the entire nation, and the only people who could possibly benefit are America’s global adversaries.
Even if Trump is too stupid to know it, the rest of his administration is not. The fact that they haven’t enacted the 25th amendment is a clear indication that hurting America is the goal.
A hungry crowd is an angry mob, and I’m increasingly worried this will end in mass violence.
I’m hoping it ends in mass class violence
“Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.”
The rest of his administration is absolutely as stupid as he is. After his last cycle he has purged anyone remotely competent.
There are very smart but evil people working in his administration.
You just don’t see them giving speeches.
Also they have to interact with both Musk and Trump on a regular basis, so lets be honest here theyre probably on liquor rotation to keep them from quiting. Prolly have three teams where at any given time two of the teams are blackout drunk.
Nah, bruv. Where does all of our domestic fruit and veg, and crops like almonds come from? California. The San Joaquin Valley. Who eats that stuff? You do. All of us. The plan is to fuck America. Why does trump do anything at all? To fuck America. That’s his job.
This the answer. California is one of our prize jewels for sure. If Vlad can monkey wrench that, it will do a lot of damage.
The central valley is a desert, and most of the water in California goes to these cash crops, causing massive water shortages and killing the native fish. It does not grow the majority of fruits and vegetables in the US.
Wjere do you think the lettuce and tomatos you eat in the winter come from? Unloke Midwestern farms, California agriculture grows actual food that people actually eat, not cattle feed.
They grow a lot of cattle feed in California
https://apps1.cdfa.ca.gov/FertilizerResearch/docs/Alfalfa_Production_CA.pdf
fair argument that California is good for winter farming though. I live in Sweden, so most of our winter produce comes from Spain, which is also pretty arid.
I don’t know what the fuck you’re on about, bruh. 1/4 of all our food is grown in the Valley. https://ca.water.usgs.gov/projects/central-valley/about-central-valley.html.
I hope you have fun while you starve.
How can a president in a democratic country order a dam opening, and this is left unchallenged by knowledgeable experts affected by the dam and stake holders? There seems a deep flaw in the system when it comes to the singular power of the US-president?
The dams are entirely the responsibility of the Army Corps of Engineers, and the US President is the commander-in-chief.
The only ways for this to not happen is for the President to have their mind changed, or the President is removed from office, or, the order is refused enough (at cost of being fired/court-martialed) that nobody will carry them out.
The great powers of the US Presidency is meant to expedite government action. We are currently far from the scenario where Congress, by the will of the US voters, will remove the current President.
In his previous term there people in all the position that would say no. He didn’t like that and fired people constantly, rotating through an inordinate amount of staff.
This time round they pre-planned everyone in every inch of federal government. All loyalists. No one will say no. They all fall in line and do as they’re told.
Trump and his handlers will strip mine and destroy the country from top to bottom completely unchallenged. And any challenge will simply be sidestepped or simply ignored.
Easy: it didn’t happen in a democratic country.
They are just trying to destroy California.
Perhaps. Put on your tin foil hats… Maybe it’s to remove the lower socioeconomic class from California through drought, damage, and famine. Thereby making California a republican state because only the rich would be able to afford to rebuild. This means that California would vote red, pushing a large mass of electoral votes towards the other side.
I have a feeling that the republicans are now weaponizing “incompetence”, so they won’t be called out as much.
This is literally terrorism.
Terrorism is when you do it. Politics is when the establishment does it.
What else could one expect from republicans?
What a fucking idiot
This isn’t about his ample idiocy. It’s about raising food prices.
Thanks, Kamala! This is her fault, right?
That’s putting it lightly. But I don’t blame you, language can’t easily express the level of moron we’re witnessing.
Trump knows his audience and the media too well.
He claimed his actions would help wildfires. That’s a win to his audience.
Experts said no and the Army Corps responded to pushback. That fuels his audience’s prejudices into believing Trump’s initial claim even more.
I think he has no idea what he is doing, and he has dismantled all the guardrails. According to project 2025 the entire country needs to be razed and dismantled. So they can rebuild it as Musk/Trump’s techno fascist state.That’s why Musk wants access to social security numbers, health data and addresses. Musk now knows where you live, what colour your skin is, your gender, your income and debt, and all your weak points. The Nazis did this, it helps with identifying perceived enemies of the state, deportation of immigrants and jailing or execution of political rivals. I am so sorry for those of you in the states who didn’t vote for this monster.
I think he has no idea what he is doing, and he has dismantled all the guardrails.
He knows exactly what he’s doing, or at least, someone else proposed this and explained it to him. What he is doing is: ruin Californias agriculture. This water would’ve been needed in summer, when the place runs dry.
So come August, chances are, California agriculture is withering on the vine with no way to water it. At which point Orange Führer will blame the state government, just like he did with the wildfires. CA will suffer politically and economically, which is the real goal here.
It’s so fucked that someone willingly followed the order to release the water. I’m sure it won’t be the last time
Which in turn we devastate all the red states because California is largest tax payers in the country. Those taxes help the red states. So by destroying California economy he fucks over all of America. Well they voted for it so let them suffer. Just wish rest of us didn’t have to suffer too.
Sure, but as long as he and his oligarch bros get away with blaming Dems, DEI, China or whatever, it’s just another piece of red meat for the gullible
The American government is not funded by taxes. It spends new money, then it collects taxes to stave off inflation. Trump doesn’t need a single cent from California to shower red states with dollars if and when he wants to. If you think California failing would hurt red states in some way, it has to be a real, non-financial effect. E.g. of red states important Californian food which can’t be grown because of X or Y.
What do you mean by “new money”?
The treasury prints money, backed primarily by treasury bonds and the faith in the US government. Fiat currency is a government backed scam, just like bitcoin is a techbro backed scam.
So you’re saying the government prints enough new money each year to cover its expenses and then collects taxes to stave off inflation? Do you have a source for this?
According to the US Government Accountability Office, “the federal government borrows money straight from the public. The government issues securities like bills, notes, and bonds through the U.S. Treasury… Individual and institutional investors can back the government by investing in these types of securities and many choose to do so.”
USD is backed by your faith in the US government to exist and not prints giant amounts of money. Taxes are another way of raising money, it helps to stave off inflation rising since the gov considers it better to have small amounts of inflation then deflation.
That’s a perfect example of the ignorance which allowed Trump and Maga to take over the states.
While also deporting the people who would harvest it.
2025 is right in that it’s existence and the ability of the current president to implement it tell us that we have erred in the amount of power we place in the president(s). Constitutionally he has the full power to do what he is doing, or at least he mostly does, the problem is that the constitution was written centuries before FDR expanded the power of the executive in a major and possibly anti constitutional way (as many of his contemporaries suggested).
The Founding Fathers left us a great system, impervious to tyranny and the sort of populism that Trump represents, and we ruined it.
“Impervious” yet FFR was able to break it. Do you not hear yourself. Maybe people 300 fuckin years ago didn’t quite understand everything yet.
He phrased it wrong but he’s sort of right. If Americans knew how to leverage their own policies system , as designed by the founding fathers, to their advantage in a focused and rational way, we wouldn’t be here. Could it have been better? Sure, but ultimately there is no democratic system that can protect voters from themselves. Democracies grsnt the people immense power, including the power to destroy their own democracy. That’s what Americans have chosen.
Constitutionally he absolutely does not have the power to do what he’s doing. Our system of checks and balances is failing because the Supreme Court and the Legislature have both all but fully ceded their authority to the Executive. Constitutionally, the job of the Executive is to implement the laws created by the Legislature and abide by rulings from the judiciary, not to do whatever they want with no basis in law or procedure.
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“The Ford Pinto is the greatest car ever made. Yes, it blows up and breaks down and is uncomfortable but it’s the best”
That’s what you sound like.
The Founding Fathers left us a great system, impervious to tyranny and the sort of populism that Trump represents, and we ruined it.
It’s not looking impervious in the slightest right now. We’re living in the consequences of their actions, and one of the consequences being tyranny.
And it’s always been tyrannical, regardless of the year you pick. This country has always been enslaving, discriminating, disenfranchisng, warring, killing innocents, or otherwise robbing workers/indiginous peoples. And always done the majority of this all at the same time.
They left us a system that was easily abused and hard to change. What’s not great about that?! /s
FDR kind of fucked it up, and from then on every subsequent president added to the enshitification of the office by expanding its powers. But yes it is inherently an oligarchy, but I do not think that is inherently a bad thing. The intentions were good.
And all those mechanisms were designed into the Constitution. You can’t keep defending it as perfect if its very structure allowed this to happen.
Holodomor 2: Orange Crush
Every fucking day it’s more “WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK, TRUMP?” in the news.
The drought in summer 2025 will be Trumps Drought.
Alongside Trumps Inflation.
No it won’t. They’ll spin it as poor planning and mismanagement by liberal California, and their base will eat it up.
Right, but what real news will there be to report on it?
Don’t need those migrant workers to pick crops if there aren’t any crops.
Stable genius.
He will blame whatever reactionary dogwhistle that’s currently plaguing the fascist MAGAts.
