I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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    17 hours ago

    Ultimately yes, its the fault of the voters (and non voters) who let their emotions cloud their judgement. Thats true whether you like it or not. Especially if Gaza was your main issue; if you saw both candidates and thought Trump was better for the situation, you need to seriously look inward and consider your reasoning abilities.

    That being said, the opposition party does not get off the hook so easily here. The fact that Trump could win despite everything he said is a total and utter failure. Their strategy is bad, and they refuse to acknoledge it because to do so means that they need to upend their internal heirarchy. They have buried their heads in the sand when it comes to accepting the playing field of politics right now, and quite frankly as a party they look incredibly weak.

    In other words, to not acknoledge that the election was theirs to lose is also denying reality

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      9 hours ago

      Ultimately yes, its the fault of the voters (and non voters) who let their emotions cloud their judgement.

      Just curious, why place blame on the voters? In my opinion we should be placing blame on the party / candidates. It is the parties and candidates job to ensure they are running on a winnable platform with a powerful message. Even outside of the Gaza issue Kamala did not back any popular policies and instead shifted to a very right (circa 2014/2016) platform. Particularly on taxation of billionaires, oil drilling, and healthcare for all, she walked all these policies to the right in the latter half of her campaign. There ultimately no reason to vote for her except so she would beat Trump, which makes sense for a lot of people, but I can also see many who weren’t inspired to vote and just assumed she’d win.

      Edit: also just saw a guy below said a very similar thing so sorry if this feels like an attack from this perspective.

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        Its ok its not an attack; you’re good!

        The reason i say that is because we are the ones that pull the trigger. The choice was shit or disaster, and disaster got chosen. For all the faults of Kamala, there are innocent people who have been deported who would still be here; federal workers who would still have jobs; palestinians who would have their home at least recognized. Its a place of privilege to be able to choose disaster when the effects of that choice are the burden of others.

        I voted for Kamala not because she is progressive; I did it because I am progressive. Sometimes that means doing something you dont like to save someone else who is counting on it.

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      15 hours ago

      Democrats also have a fair share of blame for refusing to work with the left, and instead siding with war criminal Dick fucking Cheney.

      If they had made any effort to inspire people to vote for them they would have gotten more votes.

      Honestly I’m surprised they got as many votes as they did seeing as they actively worked to alienate their vote base.