Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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    Deep thinker asks why?

    Thus spoketh the Yud: ā€œThe weird part is that DOGE is happening 0.5-2 years before the point where you actually could get an AGI cluster to go in and judge every molecule of government. Out of all the American generations, why is this happening now, that bare bit too early?ā€

    Yud, you sweet naive smol uwu babyesian boi, how gullible do you have to be to believe that a) tminus 6 months to AGI kek (do people track these dog shit predictions?) b) the purpose of DOGE is just accountability and definitely not the weaponized manifestation of techno oligarchy ripping apart our society for the copper wiring in the walls?

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      bahahahaha ā€œjudge every molecule.ā€ I canā€™t believe I ever took this guy even slightly seriously.

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        I swear these dudes really need to supplement their Ayn Rand with some Terry Pratchettā€¦

        ā€œAll right," said Susan. ā€œIā€™m not stupid. Youā€™re saying humans needā€¦ fantasies to make life bearable.ā€

        REALLY? AS IF IT WAS SOME KIND OF PINK PILL? NO. HUMANS NEED FANTASY TO BE HUMAN. TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE FALLING ANGEL MEETS THE RISING APE.

        ā€œTooth fairies? Hogfathers? Littleā€”ā€

        YES. AS PRACTICE. YOU HAVE TO START OUT LEARNING TO BELIEVE THE LITTLE LIES.

        ā€œSo we can believe the big ones?ā€

        YES. JUSTICE. MERCY. DUTY. THAT SORT OF THING.

        ā€œTheyā€™re not the same at all!ā€

        YOU THINK SO? THEN TAKE THE UNIVERSE AND GRIND IT DOWN TO THE FINEST POWDER AND SIEVE IT THROUGH THE FINEST SIEVE AND THEN SHOW ME ONE ATOM OF JUSTICE, ONE MOLECULE OF MERCY. AND YETā€”Death waved a hand. AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOMEā€¦SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED.

        ā€œYes, but people have got to believe that, or whatā€™s the pointā€”ā€

        MY POINT EXACTLY.ā€

        ā€“ Hogfather

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          Yud be like: "kek you absolute rubes. ofc I simply meant AI would be like a super accountant. I didnā€™t literally mean it would be able to analyze govā€™t waste from studying the flow of matter at the molecular levelā€¦ heh, I was just kiddingā€¦ unless šŸ„ŗ ? "

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          He retweeted somebody saying this:

          The cheat code to reading Yudkowsky- at least if youā€™re not doing death-of-the-author stuff- is that he believes the AI doom stuff with completely literal sincerity. To borrow Orwellā€™s formulation, he believes in it the way he believes in China.

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            That thread is quite something, going from ā€œyud is extraordinarily thorough (much more thorough than i could possibly be) in examining the ground directly below a streetlamp, in his search for his keysā€, that ā€˜he believes it like he believes in Chinaā€™ to ā€˜honestly, i should be reading him. we have starkly different spiritual premises- and i smugly presume my spiritual premises are informed by better epistemologyā€™

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          ā€œjudge every moleculeā€ and ā€œsimulation hypothesisā€ probably have a bit of a fling going

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            ā€œThe AI is attuned to every molecular vibration and can reconstruct you by extrapolation from a piece of fairy cakeā€ is a necessary premise of the Basilisk that theyā€™ve spent all that time saying they donā€™t believe in.

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              Quantum computing will enable the AGI to entangle with all surrounding molecular vibrations! I saw another press release today

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                ah, the novel QC RSA attack: shaking the algorithm so much it gets annoyed and gives up the plaintext out of desperation