• MajorHavoc
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    18 hours ago

    “Part of capitalist ideology is that no matter what the problem, there is a technical fix. Because if there is no technical fix, then there is something wrong with the society, and the defenders of the society do not want to believe this.”

    Honestly, that’s a pretty generous take.

    Part of today’s capitalism is “fuck you, I got mine”.

    I don’t know if capitalism can or cannot be compatible with a living life supporting planet, but I agree that, forced to pick between the two, I’ll choose the living planet.

    Capitalists who love capitalism need to get their asses in gear and prove it can save the planet, if they want to keep capitalism.

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      17 hours ago

      You know, people are inherently selfish. Don’t know how do you want to design effective non-capitalist system around that

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        The “selfish human nature” meme was basically invented as a post-hoc justification for the dysfunctional social systems that lead to people behaving that way, it doesn’t actually hold up to scrutiny. Thomas Hobbes for instance was taking the cultural memory of the horrors of war and giving people an easy to swallow explanation, he wasn’t an anthropologist.

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          The “selfish human nature” meme was basically invented as a post-hoc justification for the dysfunctional social systems

          No, it’s a biological reality rooted all the way in theory of evolution. It’s an inherent part of nature of any living being

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            Taking survival of the fittest and using it as evidence of vaguely analogous principles for how human society works has a long history of being wrong. That the way we behave is biased towards survival and reproduction in our native habitat does not imply that the concept of self interest must be at the foundation of how our minds function.

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      16 hours ago

      So what? Just don’t try to make anything better? What a pointless comment

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        So what? Just don’t try to make anything better?

        The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

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          14 hours ago

          Like we maintain capitalism while it’s destroying our environment? It sure is insane how we keep on doing the same “capitalist innovation will fix this” shit while we are eroding the basis on which all life on earth depends.

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            11 hours ago

            If you mean global warming caused by fossil fuels, then you should look at the global renewable energy deployments. It’s not that capitalism cares about environment but it just happens that renewable power gets cheaper and cheaper causing shift.