Joe Exotic posts on instagram that his husband was deported by ICE after years of shilling for Donald Trump.

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    3 hours ago

    Wait he’s actually gay? I never knew that

    How do you deport a husband anyway, doesn’t marriage guarantee citizenship?

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      doesn’t marriage guarantee citizenship?

      Not really in practice. There are other stories of spouses married to US citizens and being the parent to US babies. These guys are literally ripping families apart. They did it the first time and they are doing it now.

      There is a ‘path’ but the hoops you would have to jump through mean you’ll self deport and be away from your family for a very long time(by design). The immigration system is backed up after all. Plus what ever stable job you had will be gone after the months to years long wait.

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    He’s gay and married to an immigrant and still voted trump? I knew magaheads were dense but this is neutron star level density!

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        Wait. I’m French so this made my brain fry.

        In the US prisoners have their constitutional rights removed?

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          Yup! In America convicted felons are not allowed to vote in federal elections and depending on the law of the state they are not allowed to vote in state or municipal elections either. As a result of these policies a disproportionate amount of black and Latino communities have had their right to vote stripped away.

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            I checked it out and about 4.4 million US citizens cannot vote (excluding the real 51st state: Puerto-Rico) including 1/19 blacks. That’s crazy, it’s as if the country is setup for a one party system from the get go. You don’t need huge prisoner cohorts to make the 3% difference needed for you to remain in power while maintaining an illusion of democracy.

          • Restis@lemm.ee
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            So… Does this mean the current sitting American president couldn’t vote in the last election?

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              He was convicted in a state court, not a federal court, so the rules are a bit different.

              Additionally, elections are administered at the state level, rather than federally, so his home state of Florida makes the rules allowing or disallowing his vote.

              CNN wrote a piece about it on election day.

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          they are also legally slaves! the 13th amendment didn’t remove slavery completely:

          Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

          BFE

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    Hahaha, you think a gay dude’s getting one of Trump’s golden tickets for US citizenship? I mean come on, has he even raped any women? Remember, trans ones don’t count!

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      I think trans ones count if you fuck em over instead of just merely fucking them…

      Just saying, my bf wishes he could fuck me as hard as the US Government does

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      i absolutely hate this, and at the same time, you’re entirely on point here. it’s beginning to feel a lot like sex crimes are a rite of passage to the new regime, bonus points if it’s a hate crime directed at a trans person

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        I’m honestly surprised they haven’t lowered the age of consent to 12 whilst accusing transpeople of being pedos at the same time somehow.

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        What do you mean “sex crimes”? There’s about to be no such thing by the end of the next 4 years. Women won’t be able to report crimes

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          I’m pretty certain they’ll still be able to report a crime, but it becomes selectively enforced and used to control people.

          Or they encourage victims to speak up, then force them to marry their rapist and remove all agency from them in that marriage to prevent them from speaking about it again.

          Or both.

          Or something worse than all of the above.

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      Hahaha, you think a gay dude’s getting one of Trump’s golden tickets for US citizenship?

      Very possibly, if you can get him in the same room as Trump and he does a good enough job of brown nosing.

      The Donald is a notorious queen, loves Broadway, loves gay culture and appropriates it with abandon, and would happily make a pageant of granting clemency to Joe Exotic’s husband if he was in his 2020 celebrity heyday rather than the dustbin of Netflix history.

      I mean come on, has he even raped any women?

      Given the guy’s history… I’m not counting it out.

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      I mean come on, has he even raped any women? Remember, trans ones don’t count!

      Does this mean trans-rape is 21st century lynching?

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        Well, yeah, but I believe the implication is that if they were legally married then Exotic’s husband should be a US citizen and shouldn’t have been deported.

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            Other way around. A US citizen marrying a foreign national grants the foreign national a path towards citizenship.

            After looking further into it, however, it’s not an immediate thing. It seems to take 3 years before you can apply for citizenship, and of course you need to remain in the country legally for those 3 years.

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          I think that even if they were legally married, there are instances where they can still be deported. If the person went into or stayed in America “illegally”, they can be deported regardless of marriage status.

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          That’s bullshit. The government shouldn’t be deporting people for refusing to participate in their system of regulating love. Just let people live where they want.

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        Note that might have legal consequences: if they expressed that in a court session it might be considered perjury or contempt of court. In general, people don’t like being mislead, so using sentences that are easy to misinterpret when you could have used a more straightforward sentence will probably lead to trouble.

        Some consequences of “represent[ing] to others that the parties are married” can be considered quite negative: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/no-home-or-kids-together-but-couple-still-spouses-appeal-court-rules https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common-law_marriage_in_the_United_States

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        You know what? No. “Husband” “Wife” and “Spouse” have a legal meaning that has ramifications in tax and contract law, so I can only assume (especially from someone of his ethical caliber) that using such language is attempted fraud.

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            People can do whatever they want with their relationships, but if they want a union recognized by the government and the advantages conferred by that, then yes the state can regulate that

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            Marriage has nothing to do with relationships or love. Never has and never will. Marriage is a contract, whether the terms of that contract is who has power of attorney by default or a mutual defense pact against the Ottoman Empire is up to the betrothed.

            Let me provide an example of why this has to be in place: One cannot be compelled to testify against a spouse in court. That protection doesn’t extend to boyfriends, fucktoys or high-speed-low-passes. To prevent that system from being abused, you’re going to need to have a registry somewhere otherwise every court case is going to be “the prosecution can’t call any witnesses because everyone in the English speaking world is my spouse.”

            Boyfriend, partner, dicksheath, cumdumpster, codpiece, anklegrabber, better half or significant other, these terms have no legal meaning and thus are perfectly free to use. “Husband” “Wife” and “Spouse” mean “we are parties of a certain standardized, legally binding contract.”

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              Ain’t nobody should have to snitch to the cops about nothing if they don’t want to. Shouldn’t require marriage at all.

              Also, if marriage isn’t about love, then how come you can’t marry your sister? I’m not advocating for sister marriage, I’m just pointing out it definitely is about love, and that’s why marrying your sister is weird.

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          lol okay word police.

          I’m sure this keeps you up at night tossing and turning that someone used the word husband when it wasn’t technically correct under the strict definition of ThE lEgAl SyStEm

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            Okay so, other than “husband” and “woman” are there any other words the left don’t want to allow defining? How long is this list going to get?

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              Hello I’m the left’s official spokesperson and I think I can clear up this confusion.

              A woman is someone who wants to be a woman.

              A husband is someone who wants to be a husband and has consent from the person they’re a husband of.

              Both of these words are identities, and letting people be who they want to be when it doesn’t affect other people is one of the values of the left. So you can go ahead and extend this reasoning to all personal identities that don’t harm others, and I think that answers your question.

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                  I mean, it’s you that’s insisting on a strict rule being followed, while the rest of us are letting people live their lives as they like.

                  It is you dying on the hill my friend. Alone, by the sounds of it.

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      Marriage isn’t a legal construct. The government doesn’t have the right to own people’s relationships. They can say they do, it doesn’t make it true.

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        Traditionally marriage is about property rights, for the spouses and children. As such it was effectively a contract, and this is very much in what the government is for, since they will be the ones enforcing the contract if the parties disagree.

        In the modern USA especially, a whole package of benefits is tied to being married, from health care to pensions and so on. Again, the government literally must be involved.

        All of this is probably the main reason that people pushed so hard for gay marriage. Not having access to all of that was real discrimination.

        I would love for marriage to move from being a special thing to being like any other contract, but it would take decades of work to begin to untangle it from the current model.

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        Sorry guys, I agree with this take. The tricky part is the legal stuff tied to “single” or “married”, etc but we shouldn’t have distinguished based on that anyway.

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    Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving piece of shit. Zero sympathy.