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The Kremlin has long sought to sow chaos using ‘information confrontation’. That job just got a lot easier

The Kremlin has long sought to sow chaos using ‘information confrontation’. That job just got a lot easier

  • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    2 days ago

    Yes hello.

    I was waiting for one of you to turn up.

    Don’t think I be forgotten your nickname.

    Nice strawmanning, but “on every platform” =/= “everywhere.”

    Thanks for the case in point, comrade!

    • index@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      33·
      2 days ago

      Believe what you want i’m simply pointing out the obvious, if you only see russia propaganda around and none from the west ask yourself a question.

      • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        32·
        2 days ago

        Ask a question… like; would you mind confirming Putin is a warcriminal and a sad bald bastard?

        • index@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          24·
          2 days ago

          I confirm he’s a warcriminal. trump, putin, zelenskyy, macron and pretty much all rulers are corrupted pigs with blood on their hands, don’t you agree?

          • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            33·
            2 days ago

            See, this is exactly what you do. You pretend to admit to it, but only in a comment where you say “oh yeah, Putin is a warcriminal IF everyone else is as well”. That’s not admitting to his criminality, that’s you trying to be “smart.”

            It’s genuinely like arguing a twelve-year old school boy. Worse, honestly. I talked to some tweeners today on the bus and they made better arguments than you do when they defended vaping on the bus. FFS.

            • index@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              44·
              2 days ago

              I just confirmed that putin is a warcriminal and you are trying to prove that i didn’t…

              • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                24·
                2 days ago

                So you admit he’s a warcriminal because of the crimes on humanity he’s guilty of, which Zelensky is not? You’re not taking a side.

                I don’t think you’re a state actor, you’re clearly not a professional in anything. But like… even if I did, do you think I’m actually trying to say that Russian disinfo wouldn’t be able to lie?

                Now you’re just doing the very same “oh I already admitted to that” thing, because you pretend like saying “all world leaders are bad” means the same thing as admitting to Putin’s crimes.

                You avoid being directly unpatriotic, because you think you can outsmart me. It’s like watching a toddler hide behind some curtains, not realising their feet are showing and that one can actually hear them giggling.

                Basically, you avoid anything that could actually get you thrown out of a window. You won’t actually take a stand against Putin. No, you’ll try to pretend to admit to criticising him while trying to criticise Zelensky. Zelensky hasn’t invaded a sovereign nation with his armed forces. He is defending his country though, and unlike Putin, he isn’t a low-test bald fattie hiding in a bunker.

                • index@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  33·
                  2 days ago

                  I just said that putin is a warcriminal and you accuse me of not taking a stand against him because i don’t support zelensky. Do you realize how wrong and twisted this logic is?

                  • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    23·
                    2 days ago

                    You’re not taking a stand.

                    That’s like me saying “hey, that guy there, he raped a person, I saw him put his dick into another person with force, against their will” and me asking you to be a witness and affirm that thing to the cops, and then you come in and say “well yeah, everyone who has a penis is technically a rapist, so yeah, I admit that that person is a rapist because he has a penis” which would mean you’re implying that you are not a witness to that rape.

                    You see how this works? Like each and every time, I have to draw it out of you, and then when I do, you just skip and run. I told you, we’ve had this chat a dozen times.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

                    Since the beginning of the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the Russian military and authorities have committed war crimes, such as deliberate attacks against civilian targets, including on hospitals, medical facilities and on the energy grid;[1][2][3] indiscriminate attacks on densely-populated areas; the abduction, torture and murder of civilians; forced deportations; sexual violence; destruction of cultural heritage; and the killing and torture of Ukrainian prisoners of war.

                    If you accept these to be true, I’d shut up. But you won’t. Instead you’ll keep whatabouting about Zelensky, hoping I’ll instead try to shift the conversation onto asking “why don’t you support Zelensky”, but that’s kinda obvious, so I don’t. And you won’t accept those crimes, like all the dozens of times before, and you won’t accept that Putin should be held personally responsible for those crimes either, I’d wager.

                    Please, do prove me wrong.