Something also not touched on in the article is the HUGE number of ukrainians we have in our country, particularly in the praries. We’re ranked in the top 3 for ukrianians/Ukraine heritage, below Ukraine and Russia.
I’d argue most Canadians are pretty pro-Ukraine, and the US wiffle-waffling on that as well stings deep.
I get it’s ‘the US’ because he was voted in but it’s not the US it’s one fucking moron. Our country bumkins are misinformed idiots that got him to power, yes, but population centers aka well educated folks are blue and we fucking hate every minute of this shit. Hence demonstrations at all state capitols multiple times over the last 2 months.
Idk I’m probably making a moot point. I just can’t stand being thrown in a pile with the current administration, him winning or not, none of this is okay.
Bit tired of hearing this NGL, the problem is with your entire country and frankly that includes casting off the American rural poor as “idiotic country bumkins”. Stuff like that is exactly what will turn them away from your ideals & into the hands of those pointing at the snobbish urban elites looking down at them.
as if telling them otherwise is going to make them suddenly turn them against the right wingers, lol they have been conditioned by propaganda, eg mainly through fox and rush limbaugh for a generations and from birth. there are other factors to consider like heavy voter suppression in the states, that prevent any Dems from winning many elections, nobody is going to hold the hands of REPUBLICANS to vote against thier own party
most of the educated are blue, alot of them are also red, because they fell for the misinformation while growing up, and through the bitterness in lack of career advancement because the major they chose dint lead them to one. i followed some asian tubers once, and they were all college educated, but they turned pretty maga during pandemic and a defensive coping mechanism from being called out for mistreatment of a employment, turns out they were always right wingers and shitty people, when people digged up thier social media/and past how badly they treated thier employees.
the 2 channel owners were college educated, but they are so misinformed on things, and very low info they fell for joe roegan,and shapiro, or whatever right winger was on the time.
You Americans being so dismissive of other people is exactly how this happened in the first place.
Remember when people were calling out how gender affirming care policies had gone too far and those people were written off as bigots? Then it turned out that a bunch of ideologues had hijacked the processes in several countries and were issuing puberty blockers and hormones with barely any consultation, then suppressed evidence that unchecked use of puberty blockers and hormones was actively harming people?
Remember when it turned out that droplet theory was bullshit and cloth masks don’t actually block COVID but we kept trucking along like they did?
Remember when Democrats told people facing hard times that the economy was doing great, even as the number of homeless was shooting up and inflation was going wild?
These and others are the kinds of lies that make people lose trust in authorities. Doubling down on them only made it worse. And before someone chimes in with a list of Republican / right-wing versions of this: yes I know they do the same thing, but telling people that as if that makes what “your side” did any better is stupid. The idea is to tell them about the lies on both sides so that they realize you’re not just another tribal moron. Tell the truth, gain some trust, and maybe you’ll see you share more in common than you’ve been lead to believe.
you are arguing in bad faith, lol nothing what you said was true. who the fuck was giving out free hormones, and people with genetic conditions take hormones because thier bodies cant produce any,
I didn’t say they were giving out free hormones. I said they were giving them out much more freely than they should have. Gender dysphoria is real but in a significant number of cases it has been identified as a symptom of other problems rather than the actual source, and it often resolves after resolving the underlying issues. Multiple countries have acknowledged this after extensive review and modified how they deliver care to be much more reserved about who is given puberty blockers and hormones.
Also studies show puberty blockers are not nearly as safe for long-term use as we were lead to believe, and indeed the ones on the market were never approved to be used that way. It was an off-label use and that is kind of absurd for an official treatment model.
people with genetic conditions take hormones because thier bodies cant produce any
I didn’t say there are no other reasons people take hormones. Gender dysphoria is itself a valid reason, when actually properly observed by medical professionals who are not zealots.
the mask issue wasnt evena big deal
For you. For others it was viewed as a government attempting to dehumanize them and strip them of their freedom. While I think they were being a bit dramatic, the fact is that the way to deal with this was not to mock them. You build a connection, establish trust, and show them why we need to work together.
When the evidence became clear that droplet theory was actually based on nothing at all (seriously it was a misunderstanding) and that cloth masks (not fitted N95s, cloth masks) actually cannot block COVID particles, there was no longer any reason to force people to wear them. Did liberals react to this with reason? Nope, it became an overly dramatic tribal issue the same way it was with the conservative folks.
Something also not touched on in the article is the HUGE number of ukrainians we have in our country, particularly in the praries. We’re ranked in the top 3 for ukrianians/Ukraine heritage, below Ukraine and Russia.
I’d argue most Canadians are pretty pro-Ukraine, and the US wiffle-waffling on that as well stings deep.
I get it’s ‘the US’ because he was voted in but it’s not the US it’s one fucking moron. Our country bumkins are misinformed idiots that got him to power, yes, but population centers aka well educated folks are blue and we fucking hate every minute of this shit. Hence demonstrations at all state capitols multiple times over the last 2 months. Idk I’m probably making a moot point. I just can’t stand being thrown in a pile with the current administration, him winning or not, none of this is okay.
Bit tired of hearing this NGL, the problem is with your entire country and frankly that includes casting off the American rural poor as “idiotic country bumkins”. Stuff like that is exactly what will turn them away from your ideals & into the hands of those pointing at the snobbish urban elites looking down at them.
as if telling them otherwise is going to make them suddenly turn them against the right wingers, lol they have been conditioned by propaganda, eg mainly through fox and rush limbaugh for a generations and from birth. there are other factors to consider like heavy voter suppression in the states, that prevent any Dems from winning many elections, nobody is going to hold the hands of REPUBLICANS to vote against thier own party
You’re kinda proving my point…
most of the educated are blue, alot of them are also red, because they fell for the misinformation while growing up, and through the bitterness in lack of career advancement because the major they chose dint lead them to one. i followed some asian tubers once, and they were all college educated, but they turned pretty maga during pandemic and a defensive coping mechanism from being called out for mistreatment of a employment, turns out they were always right wingers and shitty people, when people digged up thier social media/and past how badly they treated thier employees.
the 2 channel owners were college educated, but they are so misinformed on things, and very low info they fell for joe roegan,and shapiro, or whatever right winger was on the time.
You Americans being so dismissive of other people is exactly how this happened in the first place.
Remember when people were calling out how gender affirming care policies had gone too far and those people were written off as bigots? Then it turned out that a bunch of ideologues had hijacked the processes in several countries and were issuing puberty blockers and hormones with barely any consultation, then suppressed evidence that unchecked use of puberty blockers and hormones was actively harming people?
Remember when it turned out that droplet theory was bullshit and cloth masks don’t actually block COVID but we kept trucking along like they did?
Remember when Democrats told people facing hard times that the economy was doing great, even as the number of homeless was shooting up and inflation was going wild?
These and others are the kinds of lies that make people lose trust in authorities. Doubling down on them only made it worse. And before someone chimes in with a list of Republican / right-wing versions of this: yes I know they do the same thing, but telling people that as if that makes what “your side” did any better is stupid. The idea is to tell them about the lies on both sides so that they realize you’re not just another tribal moron. Tell the truth, gain some trust, and maybe you’ll see you share more in common than you’ve been lead to believe.
you are arguing in bad faith, lol nothing what you said was true. who the fuck was giving out free hormones, and people with genetic conditions take hormones because thier bodies cant produce any,
the mask issue wasnt evena big deal lol.
I didn’t say they were giving out free hormones. I said they were giving them out much more freely than they should have. Gender dysphoria is real but in a significant number of cases it has been identified as a symptom of other problems rather than the actual source, and it often resolves after resolving the underlying issues. Multiple countries have acknowledged this after extensive review and modified how they deliver care to be much more reserved about who is given puberty blockers and hormones.
Also studies show puberty blockers are not nearly as safe for long-term use as we were lead to believe, and indeed the ones on the market were never approved to be used that way. It was an off-label use and that is kind of absurd for an official treatment model.
I didn’t say there are no other reasons people take hormones. Gender dysphoria is itself a valid reason, when actually properly observed by medical professionals who are not zealots.
For you. For others it was viewed as a government attempting to dehumanize them and strip them of their freedom. While I think they were being a bit dramatic, the fact is that the way to deal with this was not to mock them. You build a connection, establish trust, and show them why we need to work together.
When the evidence became clear that droplet theory was actually based on nothing at all (seriously it was a misunderstanding) and that cloth masks (not fitted N95s, cloth masks) actually cannot block COVID particles, there was no longer any reason to force people to wear them. Did liberals react to this with reason? Nope, it became an overly dramatic tribal issue the same way it was with the conservative folks.
lol
they seem earnest.
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