• PeteWheeler@lemmy.world
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    Its a good lesson to teach kids, because human’s first instincts is to always judge and believe first impressions. This is obviously not a good outlook on life and will lead to issues and unnecessary conflict.

    But yeah it is kind of bullshit once you are able to understand that first impressions CAN be wrong.

    Also, children don’t dress themselves usually. So the advise is definitely more relevant as a child than an adult working retail.

    And honestly the OP should have a 95% accuracy if they are seasoned in retail. As a former retail worker, those skills were ingrained after the first month working there. It is actually baffling how easy it is.

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      It’s mostly to try and say that ugly people aren’t bad people, because there’s a natural human instinct to be drawn to pretty people with symmetrical faces. That’s why it’s a simple message for children. As OP said, with experience you learn more and you can draw your own conclusions.

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      the people who cause problems in retail environments are not the people who would think to mask the intentions their body language communicate

      that being said, people will still surprise you and it’s usually right when you stop expecting them to have any capacity to surprise you

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    Non verbal communication is quite the thing.

    It’s mostly for young people that it matters to not judge them based on their appearance, they lack the skill and experience to show who they are.

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    People lie with words all the time, but their body language always tells the real truth if you learn to listen

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      Precisely. Some folks role play ‘normal’ people in public to make it easier. Others rp as ‘crazy’ people to make you keep your distance.

      When a book stops just being a ‘book’ and instead becomes ‘lord of the rings’, that’s when cover-judging no longer applies.

      In that same way, a person becomes a friend/coworker/family. Until that happens, the only thing you have is the cover.

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    The rule that the way you go into the interaction reciprocally influences the way people interact with you might be more important here. So if you treat ppl with the expectation that theyre gonna be dicks, guess what, theyre gonna feel that and probably wont be too pleased about it and behave accordingly.

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    You can gauge a book by its cover, but until the story in known, judging should be reserved.

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      So no judging, just gauging. Got it.

      I’m gonna call my judging gauging then.

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    You shouldn’t judge a book only by its cover, but the cover can give you a lot of information about the book.

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    Judging them by the first 5 minutes of interaction is the cover. As a fast food employee you’re not going to learn that they just got fired from their job and the divorce was just completed today and the wife gets all the kids.

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    With exposure to neurodivergent posts online, it became apparent to me that even interacting with people is an unreliable way of discerning someone’s character.

    Some people are highly anxious, which can manifest in all sorts of ways, from seeming like an asshole, to being erratic and sketchy.

    I’m sure we’ve all had situations where we said something, later realizing how it could be misconstrued.

    Then we’ve got people with autism, schizophrenia, ADHD, depression, etc.

    And that’s without mentioning the personal circumstances of the day, week or month.

    Just don’t judge people if it’s unlikely to cost you anything.

    Choose compassion, patience and respect. You will never know the plight of a stranger.

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    I think the phrase has the same basic problem as a lot of common advice… the real truth is more nuanced than any pithy phrase could ever be. At best, it’s a quick way of reminding someone who already knows better but has temporarily forgotten.

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    I’m surely just deranged, but I wholeheartedly believe I can tell someone’s political leaning without even having to speak to them, just from their appearance. So far I’ve had incredible accuracy.

    Edit: nothing against anyone commenting, but I don’t care a lot about this particular innocuous comment and don’t want to have discussions about it forever, so I’m going to quit replying to new comments, feel free to leave them or downvote me or whatever, I’m just dipping on this greentext thread.

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      Well, can you make a pretty good guess at someone’s profession and wealth by looking at them? Putting aside actual political apparel and some hobby/in-group indicators (EG RealTree camo or anime merchandise) that’s probably the correlation.

      Back when image recognition AI was the hot topic I recall someone did a study which used it to identify the vehicles parked in front of homes and businesses from street view photos, and used it to predict a county’s overall political leaning with very high accuracy. I’m sure that same logic extends to clothes, hairstyle, accessories and cleanliness.

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        So, this is usually true for a lot of women, but oddly a lot of conservative men have colored hair, I wouldn’t use just hair color of course.

        You guys can get super butthurt, but I’ll bet I could guess you guys out in public too.

        There’s a lot that people give away about themselves from the way they walk to the faces they make to the gestures they use.

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      Yeah no, you might just be the former. Sure, appearance and body language sometimes works due to stereotyping, but it’s definitely not the most reliable metric.

      I wanna see you try to guess my political leaning, who knows, with your ‘incredible accuracy’ you might just get it right.

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        Send me a video of you shot when you didn’t know you were being recorded or meet me in person I guess because I’m not sure how else to do it fairly, but I’m pretty sure I could get you right.

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      I found the shitlib final boss. I can just smell the smugness over the wireless connection. Imagine being white enough to write this.

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          You’re Republican?!?! 🤣🤣🤣

          Why would you be against bots as a mouth-breathing Republican?!!! Now I’ve seen everything.

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              Elon stan? No. In fact, I started the anti Elon musk community.

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                So one of your favorite topics is the man, the myth, the musk, Elon Musk.

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                  Inasmuch as anyone’s favorite topic is the fascist cancer sucking the life out of society.

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      We evolved to live and work in groups of 150, max. Past that our brains get overwhelmed and fall back to pattern matching, another evolutionary trait, and a powerful one in us humans.

      We’re so good at judging people that when someone’s behavior throws us for a loop, it’s a memorable event.

      The only trick is making a conscious decision to stay the hell away from “all $people act like $X”. Even if I think a customer walking up is likely to be a chud, I greet them openly and friendly. Works out great.