Why are most people here are negative and rude?

Just to be clear here, I am not talking about instance, rather I am asking about the whole community.

There is no one I seen here who even had expressed any passion towards anything really.

I cannot understand how did that happen?

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    4 days ago

    I don’t think it’s “growing,” more that as society continues to get worse people’s outlooks grow darker.

  • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    4 days ago

    I’ve found much more genuine, honest discussion on here than other platforms. More people say thanks when someone corrects them. I feel like I’m talking to reasonable adults, for the most part.

  • obbeel@lemmy.eco.br
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    4 days ago

    Are people negative and rude or not expressed passion towards anything?

    Also, I think there is a good passion for tech surrounding this community. I like that.

    • N0x0n@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      4 days ago

      Yeah ! Except in the dev/code realm… They seem very aggressive to each other, specially if you whisper something like: Rust is safer than C !

      I don’t really get it, but I find It very pleasant to read when passionate people write a whole essay I don’t even understand 1/10 of what they are writing… However, there seems some heated negativity in that community !

  • sbv@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    4 days ago

    We’re negative doomscrollers, true. But most people seem pretty polite, at least in my experience.

    • OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      Your right about the doom scrollers part. Everyone on Lemmy atleast on the larger subs are always negative. Politics are dominating the main subs and explore page. It’s such a turn off. Politics needs to generally stay out if the lime light. Instead of doom posts thrown in your face. Non stop.

      • sbv@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        We all have our reasons for being here. The politics is definitely depressing, but it’s something a lot of Lemmites have in common.

        You’re right that it’d be nice if there was more going on.

    • Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 days ago

      I can be negative. But I love people and want the best for everyone. What I don’t like are the toxic systems of control that some people are under, and some people follow. Aand sometimes I can be swept up in the injustice, and lose my patience with extreme followers.

      I apologise in advance to this community if I make someone’s mood worse, instead of better. I can often fail, and yet we should all strive to be a healthy member of the communities we inhabit!

    • PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 days ago

      ehhh i wouldn’t it way to start and angry mob and sometimes i dont trust mods descension. since even servers with no rules will make up reasons for a ban

      • Nemo's public admirer@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        4 days ago

        Find the best available option? Or start your own server with no rules and attract others who want no rules?

        I think a good community would have restrictions to avoid unnecessary hate

  • Lumidaub@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    4 days ago

    You’ll have to be more specific. I’m not seeing any unusual amount of negativity.

    What’s that thing about expressing any passion? What do you mean by that?

    • lautan@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      4 days ago

      Go to any political post. Everyone is calling others names and it’s not productive at all.

      • Lumidaub@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        4 days ago

        But that’s humans? It’s always been like that, everywhere at all times. The only thing that’s changed, maybe, is that Lemmy is growing and there’s more discussion in general so of course the absolute number of things that cause name-calling has grown too, just like the absolute number of things that don’t.

        • lautan@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          3 days ago

          That’s not true. Go to youtube and read the comments under any lofi video but that’s just one example. When Lemmy just started it was a place for people to escape the fanatics and now it’s becoming more toxic.

          • Lumidaub@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            3 days ago

            And that’s Youtube, an entirely different place that isn’t the topic of discussion here and that’s ALSO always been Like That. Never Look At The Comments is received wisdom.

  • xenomor@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    4 days ago

    It’s probably a downstream effect of the souring mood in the United States as the consequences of the current administration and our slide into fascism become increasingly apparent. Can’t speak for the rest of the world, but it’s hard to believe things are getting better out there.

  • Libra00@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    4 days ago

    Selection bias mostly, you only remember the negative interactions. I’m new here but I’ve not run into any particularly negative or rude people so they don’t seem super common, nowhere near like reddit.

    • PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 days ago

      yeah i noticed they tend to go after certain posts and they need to be primed by either downvotes or a comment. the rude people will be quiet if you make safe posts but if they get a hint that there other people that don’t like you then they dogpile. i noticed a good way to trigger it is to basically say or imply you do things without their approval or you dont care what they think

      • Libra00@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        4 days ago

        That sounds… rather conspiratorial.

        Also, just yesterday I posted a longish rant about doing what you want and not caring about what people think in a comment and the only reply I got was ‘This is the kind of pep talk I need!’, so… shrug Guess we travel in different circles.

        • PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 days ago

          well i don’t say that its orchestrated or premeditated, its generally that group wants to feel part of a group and they look for signs that they’re part of a group. the “tipping point” is a comment (or even a downvote on op replies) and then people that seek approval align themselves with the largest group.

          I told the anti ai crowd that i was going to make an ai bot somewhere on the fediverse just to see how people would interact with it fedizens, simply to satify my curiosity, so that’s the context. i just telling people “you’re being an asshole to me and making demands from me while I’m just trying to hear you out, so i don’t feel like changing for you”

          • Libra00@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            4 days ago

            My bad, perhaps the better word to use would’ve been paranoid. Had a similar ring to ‘they only come out when no one else is looking’, ya know?

            • PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              4 days ago

              Oh okay. I did have a conversation I tried to explain a litteral conspiracy and I kept getting called a conspiracy theorist

  • Deepus@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    3 days ago

    Its the internet, no matter how much people here like to think lemmy is some kind of special utopia its no different to any other site or social media.

  • LiamBox@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    4 days ago

    The Tumblr effect

    Thing allows freedom of speech Thing now has “bad apples” Thing either get lobotomized or accomodates with that freedom.

  • venotic@kbin.melroy.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    4 days ago

    Okay, there are three reasons why this is:

    1. Anonymity grants people the ability to be assholes.

    2. You’ve done something or said something that was going to get people riled up over.

    3. People from rejected instances, sites .etc come here to carry over their shitty nature.

    • araneae@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      3 days ago

      The amount of dogshit takes from 2 week old to 3 month old accounts is absurd, Lemmy instances should institute a one month lurking period or something. Some fuckass actually posted Asmongold to a gaming group. Its a tidal wave.