• butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world
    8·
    2 months ago

    That’s true, but i don’t know if it’s fair to say that mandating employee ownership is anything other than socialist. Not Marxist, sure. Certainly leftist. But isn’t employee ownership and governance of the means of production, by definition, socialism?

      • geissi@feddit.orgEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        Socialism has other elements

        I think your argument might be more convincing if you actually mentioned these elements.

        Marx did not think it was socialism

        Other people had other definitions even before Marx, so I’m not sure why his should be the only valid definition.

        Just my two cents.

      • butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 months ago

        Ah I see. I definitely have more learning to do than. In that case how is libertarian socialism socialism? Doesn’t that definition invalidate basically everything but vanguardism?

          • butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 months ago

            Oh I definitely think my position is more informed by anarchist traditions (eg, see my username lol) than socialist traditions, but it’s not exactly anarchism either. I’m never really sure what label to use tbh.