Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 27th April 2025 - awful.systems
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Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret. Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no. If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high. > The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be) > > Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them. (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

  • BlueMonday1984@awful.systemsOPEnglish
    7Ā·
    15 hours ago

    New thread from Baldur Bjarnason, taking aim at AI coders and vibe coders alike:

    Laughing at ā€œAIā€ boosters worrying ā€œvibe codingā€ is becoming synonymous with ā€œAI codingā€. Tech is vibes througout[sic]. Vibe management. Vibe strategy. Vibe design. Coding has been a garbage fire for decades and, yeah itā€™s a vibe-based pop culture from top to bottom and has only been getting worse

    Code that does what the end user wants is already the exception. Software is managed on vibes throughout. Anybody who goes huffy because the field OVERWHELMINGLY responds to ā€œvibe coding is using AI to create code that you donā€™t care aboutā€ with ā€œso all coding, gotcha!ā€ has not been paying attention

    ā€œVibe coding is all AI codingā€ feels true to most because not caring about what happens after itā€™s pushed to the final victim is already the norm. The only change from adopting ā€œAIā€ is they now have the freedom to no longer care about what happens BEFORE as well.

    ā€œNot everybody in software dev is like that! Some coders genuinely care and put in the work needed to make good softwareā€

    True, but I feel confident in saying that next to none of those are leaning hard into ā€œAI codingā€

    The target market for ā€œAIā€ is SPECIFICALLY people who donā€™t care

    Giving a personal sidenote, I expect ā€œvibe codingā€ will stick around as a pejorative after the AI bubble bursts - ā€œAIā€ has already become synonymous with ā€œzero-effort, low-quality garbageā€ in the public eye, so re-using ā€œvibe codeā€ to mean ā€œcrapping out garbageā€ isnā€™t gonna be a difficult task, linguistically speaking.

    • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
      4Ā·
      12 hours ago

      Iā€™m just going to pretend that vibe coders mean a new VI variant and are using that to code. First VI, then VIM now VIBE? These linux holy wars are getting out of control. (sadly the vibe coder will just go ā€˜sorry what is leenux?ā€™ and my joke will fall flat.

      I agree btw, it will be a big rep damage like how NFTs damaged the idea of cryptocurrencies, and in the same note you saw how a lot of pro-cryptocurrency people disliked NFTs just because they saw this backlash (and the more naked grift of NFTs) coming.

      • BlueMonday1984@awful.systemsOPEnglish
        2Ā·
        8 hours ago

        I agree btw, it will be a big rep damage like how NFTs damaged the idea of cryptocurrencies, and in the same note you saw how a lot of pro-cryptocurrency people disliked NFTs just because they saw this backlash (and the more naked grift of NFTs) coming.

        Thatā€™s for sure. Given the circumstances, I suspect that its gonna damage the overall public image of software development - beyond suggesting software dev to be full of AI bros, the rise of vibe coding has thrown the software industryā€™s vibes-based management into sharp relief, making its dysfunctions much harder to ignore.