Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youāll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
I have to share this one.
Yeah, flex your Vim skills because being fast at editing text is totally the bottleneck of programming and not the quality and speed of our own thoughts.
Wow man, you watched 3blue1brown videos at the gymā¦
SIDE NOTE: I plea the resident compiler engineer to quickly assess the quality of this manās books since I am complete moron when it comes to programming language theory.
Is that the same AI thatās been available for barely two years?
What a drama queen.
That is like 20 years in young coder years.
āLike everyone else in my social circle, which I confuse with the entirety of the world, I am easily distracted by jangling keysā
The myth of the ā10x programmerā has broken the brains of many people in software. They appear to think that itās all about how much code you can crank out, as fast as possible. Taking some time to think? Hah, thatās just a sign of weakness, not necessary for the ultra-brained.
I donāt hear artists or writers and such bragging about how many works they can pump out per week. I donāt hear them gluing their hands to the pen of a graphing plotter to increase the speed of drawing. How did we end up like this in programming?
@nightsky @techtakes Back when I was in software dev I had the privilege of working with a couple of superprogrammers (not at the same company, many years apart). They probably wrote *less* code: it was just qualitatively far, far more elegant and effective. And they were fast, too.
Ahh, getting brain gains while also getting your gain gains. Gotta gainmaxx
wtf? Refactor functionality exists. You donāt need an LLM for this. There are probably good vim plugins that will do this for you. Clearly this 15 year vim user is still a vim scrub (takes one to know one tbh).
Near needs to touch some fucking grass.
As someone not versed in the relevant deep lore, did emacs vs vim ever actually matter? Like, my experience is with both as command line text editors, which shouldnāt have nearly as much impact on the actual code being written as the skills and insight of the person doing the writing. I assumed this was a case where you could grumble through working with the one you didnāt like but would still be able to get to the same place, but this would seem to disagree.
If nothing else, itās a trap discussion. The only real answer is ātheyāre both fine.ā Anyone who seriously argues that one is far superior to another probably needs therapy. Joke discussions are fine and signs of a healthy brain.
E: when I think vim, I think of bram moolenaar, may he rest in peace. When I think emacs, I think of richard stallman, who can go fuck himself with a rake.
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itās also a great test for knowing whether youāre dealing with a mature/competent developer or not
remembering fucking stupid flamewars on comp.editors over vi variants, and then thereās Sven Guckes (vim) and Thomas Dickey (nvi) having a lovely discussion
This is like learning about the christmas truce in WWI.
Also, I had to search both those guys. RIP Sven Guckes, Iām sure I have more to thank you for than Iāll ever know (unless I go back and check the commits). Thomas Dickey, I hope Luigi Mangioneās defence is going well.
It doesnāt matter. Vim is an emacs under the Finseth definition (which is my favorite way of riling up both vim and emacs people trying to keep the irrelevant editor war going). Those folks oughta find something else to center their entire personality around.
honestly the only important difference between them is that emacsās default keybindings can and will give you a repetitive stress injury (ask me how i knowā¦)
The books look alright. I only read the samples. The testimonials from experts are positive. Maybe compare and contrast with Lox from Crafting Interpreters, whose author is not an ally but not known evil either. In terms of language design, thereās a lot of truth to the idea that Monkey is a boring ripoff of Tiger, which itself is also boring in order to be easier to teach. Iād say that Ballās biggest mistake is using Go as the implementation language and not explaining concepts in a language-neutral fashion, which makes sense when working on a big long-lived project but not for a single-person exploration.
Actually, it makes a lot of sense that somebody writing a lot of Go would think that an LLM is impressive. Also, I have to sneer at this:
Dude literally just discovered word choice and composition. Welcome to writing! I learned about this in public education when I was maybe 14.
If I am ever that pompous, please just deliver me to the farm upstate
I wonder whatād happen if this person read, like, any international code at all
go for some malware shellcode! you can find italian php! russian perl! itās great!
(and thatās before one even gets to the variety of stuff that existed/exists as completely separate tech bases - russian pdp clones, japanese minicomputers, etc etc)
Possible upside of the AI bubble: getting high school English teachers the barest amount of respect from Administration.
And, arguably, the humanities as a whole getting some begrudging respect - even if only because STEM is looking unimaginably stupid by comparison right now.
Video of interview with opās old nemisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcL86UpqZc&t=172s