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[2015] Brexit? Never gonna happen No way people would vote for that it would be so silly
[2020] A second Trump presidency? What are you smoking, there’s no way US citizens would want this guy back after what he did
[2025] Actual fascism, in my country? Mate what are you talking about, our people would never let it happen, at the very least they would not vote for it
Love the arms in this
It’s not truly smug until the arms get squiggly
[2025] surely we wouldn’t have to see Farage’s ugly face after reform UK’s defeat
Nigel Farage is like a shit that just won’t flush
If only that plane had come down a bit harder…
I remember thinking they wouldn’t vote for trump the first time and when they did, nothing since has surprised me. Well, maybe the speed with how Trump has taken on his second term was a bit of a surprise, but other than that, I fully expected America to turn their backs on Europe when (not if) they elected trump again.
My boyfriend told me that they would never elect trump again because of what he did with the abortion stuff and I just shrugged and said that they don’t give a fuck about women’s productive rights over there. They already have decades of religious indoctrination and an anti solidarity/anti social way of treating citizens and the citizens vote for that systematically.
I don’t know the intricacies of American politics at all. I just call a spade a spade when I see it.
As for the UK… well, they are their own mess. The rest of Europe has started to skew far right too and I hate every fucking second of it. I hate extreme politics. I feel like there has been no normal, level-headed discussions for the past ten years. I am just buckling down for a shitty ride the next decade or so.
I’m in this picture and I don’t like it
The British are just as fucking stupid as the Americans - can confirm am British
There is a 10-25% level of these types of people throughout the world, the political system, culture and social conditions just make them more or less obvious/organized.
Italian here, we have an actual fascist party in charge 😔
How’s that compared to Cheetolini?
She’s playing quite normal for a fascist, but mostly because of the EU and its boundaries (thx to god).
She’s of course pro Trump and because of that we are left alone in the corner from the other big nations in Europe.
She flirted a lot with Musk, but when it was time to sign for Starlink (for the Army!!!), the deal went down (thx to god once again).
I thought Mussolini died…
His granddaughter quit the party because it got too fascist for her https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/mussolinis-granddaughter-quits-melonis-party-saying-its-too-right-wing-2024-09-12/
German here. You will not guess which one the strongest party is, not (yet) in parliaments but in surveys. Small hint: it’s politically similar to one that used to be the only party less than 100 years ago.
I feel like once an event is terrible enough, it should buy you at least 100 years before people let it happen again.
AfD?
History never repeats itself…but it often rhymes.
Rip. Same over here with our strongest polling party 😩
Christian Democrats?
I don’t follow the surveys too tight but at some point the AfD topped the CxU I think
I lived in Luton for a bit for a UK job, let me tell ya, I got to see the best and brightest of your country I think. Brexit was a surprise for me like it was for most, but only half of a surprise after what I’d seen ten years before in big Lute.
Although I was told I don’t know what the real british experience is until I’ve seen the Bude tunnel in person. This place changes people, so I’ve been told. Can’t wait to visit it one day and get my spiritual awakening.
Psssshhhhhh!!! Bitch please! We eat tidepods, and then get into heated arguements over who can and can’t use certain bathrooms based on their genitals that we can’t see.
Yes that is part of what we do. We also hate on foreigners for “taking all the jobs” when in reality they are taking the jobs we won’t do. This is just an excuse used by lazy brits who don’t want to pay their way and sit around claiming benefits and having loads of kids. Ironically claiming some of the money those “job stealing foreigners” are making for their own families. We also form hate groups to drive these people out of the country as “they are making Britain a horrible place to live”. We aren’t the gentle passive country we all tell people we are and we are in no way better or smarter then countries such as America as we always tend to follow whatever they do. Britain is also full of nazis. Wake up.
It Can’t Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis
The novel describes the rise of Berzelius “Buzz” Windrip, a demagogue who is elected President of the United States, after fomenting fear and promising drastic economic and social reforms while promoting a return to patriotism and “traditional” values.
That sounds vaugely firmiliar. Anyone have any idea who that could be in real life?
I am kind of torn about therapy. This seems beside the point but hear me out. I am autistic, every time my therapist explains normal people to me increases my belief that you lot are too stupid to self govern. You obviously can’t govern each other either autocraticly and no one sane would do it anyway. Interesting problem, unfortunate that it affects everyone.
People in general shouldn’t be self-governing but we don’t have fully automated luxury gay space communism yet so this is supposedly the best we can do
Out of curiosity, how do you think things should be done that differs from “normal” people.
I’m someone who has been in therapy for years and seen several different professionals in that journey, and yet I keep getting told that there is nothing fundamentally wrong with me. As someone who is clinically “normal”, I look at people in power and can’t help but see unchecked mental illness everywhere. I don’t think most of those folks would go through the same questioning and come out clear.
As far as the people who vote for them, the last five generations have been exposed to the most advanced and insidious propaganda machines of all time. Each generation gets a little better at seeing it, but then something new comes along and they’re bamboozled again. Put simply, the human brain is not designed to ward off this much manipulation.
Yeah I don’t know. I want to believe people can do it, to be honest. Leaders do seem messed up but it feels to me that the problem is just accepting that. Shit should be burning in the streets all over the “western world”.
I get human brains aren’t made to ward off the propaganda but I can’t empathise with an inability to bring some/any logic to bear. I’m not immune to propaganda, I used to read the Economist. What I can’t understand is people who cannot grow past convenient nonsense.
Edit: second thought, I don’t represent the neurodivergent but my personal feeling is “normal” people don’t care about what’s true. That could just be my own obsession, I do physics for a reason.
Yeah, with respect, I think you’re painting with a broad brush. Out of curiosity, are you old enough to remember a time before the internet? I can’t understate how complete the trance of reality was back then. It isn’t a coincidence that people used to fall in line with a different aesthetic for every decade—the media hypnotism was extreme and got us all to feel like these things were important. The second the internet provided exposure to any subculture you wanted regardless of what television was pushing, suddenly that conformity went out the window.
They taught the radicals that coming armed with flowers instead of guns was the right way to do it. The most famous leaders of the “resistance” taught non-violence to the point of self sacrifice as the only way to protest with honor. Anyone who went against that (Malcolm X) got pushed to the sidelines as a kook or a terrorist. There were no dissenting sources you could go to.
This approach has been passed down to younger generations as “the way it’s done”. Only recently has it been acceptable to seriously discuss violent resistance, and that is entirely a product of the internet making new input available combined with real fascism emerging.
For violent protest to work, you need numbers, and to get numbers, you have to convince a brainwashed populace that the ways we’ve been taught to resist are bullshit. That takes time and bridge building rather than blame. Leftists should be finding angry progressives and talking about the results that French protests can produce. Some of them will see the point.
The fact that maga voters get the same say in how our country functions as someone who is not so gullible and ignorant has been rubbing me the wrong way lately. I don’t think we should limit voting, because it’s too vague to really police but Jesus. It just feels bad.