Hasan Piker, the biggest progressive political streamer in America, was detained by Customs and Border Protection for hours of questioning upon returning to the U.S. from a trip to France this weekend. Piker posted about the incident on X and later talked about it on stream.

He was detained in Chiago and questioned for two hours about protected journalistic activities like who he’s interviewed and his political beliefs. He was asked whether or not he’d interviewed Hamas, Houthis, or Hezbollah members. He was questioned about his opinions on Trump and Israel and asked about his history of bans on Twitch. His phone and laptop were not confiscated.

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    Any comment that has to point out his politics or “concerns with him” is completely missing the point.

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      Yeah, it’s disgusting that people’s first reaction to someone being unjustly detained is that.

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      Borderline tankie. Remember him being best buds with putin before russia attacked Ukraine? Dude probably still blames NATO for that.

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        I can’t find any evidence for this? I only found a source of him saying Putin wouldn’t invade Ukraine.

        Hasan Piker: I said Russia will never invade Ukraine, because Putin is a bad person, but he’s not a mad person.

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            Oh I knew about Hasan saying Russia wouldn’t attack Ukraine. I mean I don’t know where the being best buds with Putin came from.

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              The saying “wouldn’t attack” isn’t my main gripe. It’s the constant blaming of NATO for the conflict. Which is word-for-word out of putin’s playbook.

              Also, there were plenty of terms of endearment from hasan. It was never “putin bad” before the invasion. It was “putin smart, NATO bad”.

              I don’t have any more sources for you, you can believe what you please. I don’t give a rat’s ass about the dickhead, and I’d like to stop talking about him right now.

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          I don’t care enough to sift through millions of hasan clips from 3 years ago to provide one person source.

          I used to watch him before the invasion. But when he started banning pro-NATO people from his chat, and saying that putin is just being defensive, because of NATO’s imperialistic nature.

          Dude’s an american idiot.

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            Saying Russia’s rationale is supported by evidence like the NATO chief saying that and lots of other “non pro Russia” leaders. Just because it’s a “banned” opinion in mainstream (not political correct) doesn’t make it false, or make one a tankie, or pro-Russia.

            The problem is if you do not accept different viewpoints there is no space for negotiations or peace agreements, only questionable and bloody victory. And that little trick is the real 1984 for me, not the shit MAGA is pulling off. The entire mainstream and “left” have swallowed this narrative and attack anyone with different opinions with personal attacks, even if they have clear evidence supporting their opinions.

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        This is the reason I am extremely cautious with anyone of this ilk. There seems to be too many people who happen to be leftist. Socialist. Whatever. And then out of nowhere… whitewashing of putin/russia/soviets. … because america / nato / West bad.

        Which I won’t abide for. Ever

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    The questioning (though harmless) is often a stepping stone to more drastic measures. In the place where I live (not the US), my local religious police does questioning to make sure that activists are not posting their status online. This sort of measure helps them evade accountability and keeps the general public in ignorance.

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      This is what happens when you gut education, the “regular people” observing this no longer have the historical context of what this shit actually means in the scheme of things during an ongoing fascist takeover. “What’s wrong with them just asking questions to make sure he’s not a terrorist?”

      So they let it happen, and in many cases, even cheer it on.

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      The questioning (though harmless)

      There’s nothing “harmless” about kidnapping people and coercing them into an interrogation.

      This sort of measure helps them evade accountability and keeps the general public in ignorance.

      Yep, that’s some of the harm.

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        That is true. Interrogations do harm communities to a larger extent than I initially thought. I recall how my neighborhood had to stop everything (such as art, videos, embroidery, food) just so they could avoid police kidnappings. We had three post-doctoral candidates in our district arrested for insulting the sultan (and his religion) and although they were smart enough to hire defense counsel, their lawyers told us that their clients are “jailed without trial”.

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      In the place where I live (not the US), my local religious police does questioning to make sure that activists are not posting their status online.

      Careful. Depending on which not-the-US country you’re in, this could be flagged as anti-semitism.

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        My guess is Iran, and OP should probably not confirm or deny for good reasons. Which other country have religious police, where it could flagged as anti-semitism though?

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    I have a like/dislike perspective on Hasan Piker.

    Hes tankie-lite. Critical support for him in this case though, fuck ICE.

    Its probably an indicator that I really need to touch grass that I’m primarily curious what Ethan Klein and Lonerbox think of this.

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      Man, I liked some of Klein’s videos from way back ( idubbbz as well) but when YouTubers shift from whatever content they were making to making content about the platform or others on it I usually check out real quick.

      I also can’t do 3 hour podcasts where people talk over each other and yell either so maybe I’m just not the target demo anymore.

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        Its further an indication that I need to touch grass that when I read your name I think of Vaush’s editor.

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    Never heard of this guy but must have hit a nerve if a whole Hasbara brigade is showing up here to trash talk him.

    That being said, it’s an interesting turn of events that apparently units around immigration take the role of Gestapo. Makes a lot of sense given what types of people would even want to do such a job but it’s still not what I expected when they said fascism is coming back.

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      It should be a surprise to no one that government goons are totally on board with fascism. Did anyone think for a second that they would have objections? A person that chose to be in a position of authority is going to complain when an authoritarian leader gives them more power? Yeah right. It’s all about the power trip for those thugs.

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        The government is full of career public servants who are very serious about their work, and in nearly every case, have made a conscious decision to make less money in order to be able to use their knowledge and expertise to serve the public.

        So I think it’s important to make a distinction about who you’re referring to when you say “government goons”

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    Crazy that in his stream with FD a few weeks ago he was adamant that he’d be one of the last people impacted by the immigration/border control nonsense.

    I think it just goes to show how, even otherwise well informed people, can underestimate how much fascism will impact them personally. It can be easy to distance yourself until it is in your face, placing you in cuffs, or forcible removing you from your home. I hope he learns a lesson from this experience.

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    Remember folks, it starts with the leftists, then it doesn’t stop until we lose for good. Every 80 years.

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    Is anyone surprised? This isn’t a jab at Hasan, it’s just a reminder that fascists will crack down on opponents. The likes of Hasan will be deliberately targeted until they’ve been silenced one way or another, and then they’ll come for you.

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    I find it crazy to hear this coming from the US. It was all over the news when Serbia detained a Croatian singer trying to cross the border or trying to deport people with Croatian citizenship, crazy to see the same thing happening in the US.

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        You desperately need to escape the bubble that you’re in as a member of Ethan’s community. He’s become a useful idiot for Israeli propagandists and now even the MAGA fascists - as evidenced by the details of Ethan’s false accusations against Hasan being brought up by the CBP agent who detained him. By attacking and slandering pro-Palestinian content creators and influencers he feels personally slighted by he is unwittingly doing the bidding of Netanyahu and Trump both.

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          I’m not a H3 fan but Hasan and his followers are toxic shitbags that have been relentless harassing the Kleins by peddling false rumours of child abuse and maliciously calling CPS on them. And iDubbbz is frankly a hypocrite for how he handled his excuse of a Content Cop on H3.

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            maliciously calling CPS on them.

            Hasan decries these acts btw.

            And we don’t even know who’s making the call. Sure, Hasan represents a sizable community that on the whole is against H3, but there is still room for other actors in that balance equation. H3 has rubbed off a lot of their own fans. Could those people also be suspect? We don’t know for sure.

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              i was actually linking to hasan grooming his friends using terror group videos, just like his young audience

              hasan has said on other podcasts that he is “just an entertainer” that is “a part of the radicalization funnel for ‘the cause’”

              seems obvious what the destination of this funnel is

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        He literally supports terrorism on stream

        No, whenever I see him talk about Gaza he always speaks against Israel; I don’t know where you’re getting that he supports them.

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        Lmao at the number of downvotes, another W for lemmy.

        If you’re actually curious about why someone might see a group like the Houthis differently than the US state department does, here’s an excellent explanation by a well-known and respected Israeli political scientist on the matter. You’re free to disagree with him, but there’s good reason to be skeptical of the terror designation and more reason still why recognizing their support against a genocide certainly shouldn’t be viewed as an endorsement of their ideological perspective.

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        Seeing the downvotes on this moron makes me think I’m in the right community. Thanks lemmings. Rodents strong together. 🐁

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          Which part is nonsense? The part where he said the houthis actions were a good thing, the part in the full debate you linked where he quadrupled down on it, or the fact that the houthis are registered as a terrorist organization and have kidnapped and held innocent civilians hostage for a year?

          I saw the full unedited Ethan and Hasan debate, and Hasan’s context and excuses just made me disgusted.

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            You’re doing the thing.

            Hasan explained why he supports the Houthis actions, why are you leaving out that context? Is it because most people might actually sympathize with it as well? Y’all just can’t help yourselves with your outrage, can you? lmfao

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              No one sympathizes with the houthis.

              Also I’m not leaving out any context. There is no universe where anything the houthis did was excusable. Hasan did explain it, and it made him look worse. He tries to justify the kidnapping of innocent civilians (some Asian workers who had nothing to do with it, who were working on a brittish vessel only partially owned by some Jewish person.) and holding them hostage for a year in that debate. “What else were they supposed to do?” How about not terrorism? How about going to Palestine? How about activism, propaganda, anything other than terrorism?

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                While you scrutinize the finer points of morality relating to the detainment of sailors as part of an economic blockade, Israel is intentionally starving millions of children. Your priorities are so out of whack it’s absurd that you don’t recognize it. You don’t have to support the Houthis to acknowledge that their economic blockade of Israel is justified. If engaging in that level of nuance makes me a terrorist in your eyes, you’ve completely lost the plot.

                Besides, the word terrorist has always been used by the US as a propaganda tool to paint specific militant groups that are enemies of US empire as barbaric and inhuman. If the basic definition of terrorism were applied fairly across the board then the IDF and US military would be considered the most prolific terrorists and the US and Israel the largest state sponsors of terror. The standard of violence is set by the oppressors.

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                  I wish I was as articulate as you. You explain things very well. I just go 😡

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                  WTF has this to do with priorities? Just because i despise the israeli government and the action they take i have to give hasan a pass when he blurts out insane takes on a daily basis?

                  Yeah, and i agree the US and Israel are in some ways full blown terror regimes which did horrible things. Doesnt take away from the fact that Hamas, Hezbollah or the Houthis are terror orgs. Yeah, sure the US caused probably more harm over the last century then the three groups together. But that doesnt legitimize anything ffs.

                  Hasan fans should really start reading books about the matters they are so invested in instead of just parroting some dumbass twitch streamer.

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            You are vaguely referencing a bunch of stuff and simultaneously being angry I am not being specific enough.

            Be specific, what are you claiming Hasan has done illegally or wrongly? You claim he “supports” a “terrorist” organization but the onus is on you to prove in exhaustive and specific terms why I should believe you when you say the words “support” and '“terrorist” that you aren’t just moving empty hot air and hate around with your mouth.

            I saw the full unedited Ethan and Hasan debate, and Hasan’s context and excuses just made me disgusted.

            Nobody is surprised by this, your behavior makes it crystal clear this is the kind of position you would have.

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              You’re trying to delegitimize what I’m saying by saying I’m emotional and unspecific, and attacking my character. You’re purposefully playing dumb to avoid the actual point I’m making. Then you try to move the goalpost by asking what he’s done that is illegal or wrong, which is not what I’m talking about.

              Here are the direct quotes so there is no mistaking it. Both points were reiterated in the video you linked.

              “I think what the houthis are doing is a good thing” -Hasan

              “We support you” -Hasan when interviewing a houthi terrorist.

              Hasan is a terrorist supporter as evident by the above direct quotes.

              As for what I found disgusting was when he excused his claims about the rape allegations being false and saying there was no evidence. Also in the video you linked.

              Nobody is surprised by this, your behavior makes it crystal clear this is the kind of position you would have.

              What is your point with this? Are you shaming me for watching the full debate that was supposed to clear everything up on both sides? Also didn’t you just link an asmongold-style reaction video to that whole debate?

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                “I think what the houthis are doing is a good thing” -Hasan

                That’s pretty vague. If I said I support what America does, that doesn’t necessarily mean I support the worst actions the state has ever taken.

                Hasan is a terrorist supporter as evident by the above direct quotes.

                Again, just because a group ends up on a terrorist list doesn’t really mean much besides that they’re currently unaligned with US interest. The “terrorist” dogma has really lost its bite since the war on terror began.

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                  If the context was “America kidnapped civilians” and someone said “I think what the Americans are doing is a good thing”, then yes, that would paint a bad picture. And it was vague at first but after Hasan explained himself in the debate, it became clear that he was excusing the kidnappings.

                  Do you not think what they did was terrorism? Do you want to explain to the hostages that they were just overreacting and that their kidnappers actually aren’t that bad, and it’s just some dogma?

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            lol someone from programmingdev would have different political views they never see political posts

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            Hi, I was in New York for 9/11. I was a young teen and I remember the whole day very clearly. Two adults who were positive influences in my life died when those towers collapsed.

            As a country, we did deserve it. We had it coming. It’s still tragic, but it was a tragedy of our own making.

            And people like you who abuse the truth of that tragedy to try and invalidate or silence the people who devote their lives to trying to get this country fixed, are scum.

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              I agree (except for the “scum” part) but would not complain if border security singled me out like they did him.

              He wasn’t beaten up or thrown into prison.

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            We literally murdered 100s of thousands prior to 9/11 and then we proceeded to murder millions of innocents after. We still deserve it.

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              That and we had intel that such an attack was imminent and the Bush administration was okay with it bc they wanted to kill millions more.

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              So the ~3000 people who were killed “deserved it”? What did they do?

              ETA Jesus fucking Christ, I did not expect that “mass murder is bad” would be an unpopular opinion. Y’all are genuinely disgusting and hopefully on a watchlist of some sort.

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                Hasan said that America deserved it, not that the 3,000 people who died in 9/11 deserved it.

                Reading comprehension. Work on it.

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                They worked under the US, and reaped the benefits of our imperialist actions. obviously no one deserves to be murdered, but we are all culpable for the violence our nation commits, because we’re the ones keeping it running. The US deserved retaliation for what it partook in during the cold war, and that retaliation was never going to only include guilty parties.

                EDIT: let me put it in another perspective: if you went to a foreign nation which operated on slavery, started working there, enjoyed the goods and services provided to you by the enslaved, and socialized with the enslavers, why would you ever expect sympathy from the enslaved? You chose who to help, who to do business with, and you chose the enslavers. It really doesn’t matter if you talked about slavery being fucked up behind closed doors, you enjoyed the value ripped from the enslaved. You’re now just as culpable as the enslavers.

                Edit 2: made some edits communicating some further nuance regarding the subject. 9/11 was a tragedy, but it is largely overshadowed by the sheer scale of death our conflict with the Middle-East has had.

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                  Would you go off yourself to stop the machine? Would you go to jail to fight for the cause? Would you sacrifice your family if it meant it would nudge anti capitalism movement?

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            Don’t take this the wrong way, I hate terrorism and nothing justifies it but the American government didn’t care about American or non white people dying while forming an alliance with Pakistan to train terrorists in Afghanistan. They knew full well how dangerous these people were. What the American government basically did was hit a hornet’s nest violently in hopes that they will attack your neighbour, and act surprised when some of them came to bite your own face. If a person did that, they he would be a fool. If the American government does that, it’s ‘a mistake’ at best.

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            “America Deserved 9/11”

            Let’s phrase this a different way. “America reaped what it sowed,” or “America made its bed and is now lying in it.” This is a pretty solid “yup” from me. We armed, trained, and funded the leaders of the group that carried out the attack, among many other things

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              No one is arguing whether America or Israel is bad.

              No one deserved to be killed or lose their loved ones on 9/11 or any other event. Thinking that civilians deserve to die because a government is bad is terrorist mentality.

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                When someone says “America,” it seems obvious they’re talking about the country as a whole or its leadership, and not individual people. He very clearly is not saying “Americans deserved to die.”

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                  That is not as obvious as you think it is. I would argue that the first thing most people would think it meant is “americans deserved to die”, not “the Bush administration deserved the scrutiny and criticism it brought”

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            Lol your most solid source is a random post from some politician’s web page?

            He opposes terrorism. Which is why he opposes Israel. Which is what gets him in trouble.

            He may also have said some things in support of terrorism by Hamas, which would be fucked up in my opinion. I don’t know and I have no plans to take this web page seriously about it. He is still allowed to go on the internet and say those things, according to the first amendment, and this attempt to threaten him about it is horrifying whatever his opinions are. What part of “I get to say whatever the fuck I want because those are my opinions” doesn’t make sense here?

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              Lol your most solid source is a random post from some politician’s web page?

              Dude, you have a PDF there with ALL THE RELEVANT CITATIONS AND CLIPS from his streams in second paragraph. This is the primary source. You can’t bring anything better to the table.

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                He is still allowed to go on the internet and say those things, according to the first amendment, and this attempt to threaten him about it is horrifying whatever his opinions are. What part of “I get to say whatever the fuck I want because those are my opinions” doesn’t make sense here?

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                  Also, you don’t have to watch Hasan Piker for long to see that this characterization of him is totally absurd, I don’t know whether it is more embarassing that people actually believe Hasan Piker is like this or that they are willing to lie so boldfacedly about it.

                  Hasan doesn’t advocate for violence like this, I am sure he has said some spicey shit but trying to frame his as a terrorist is a dangerous road to walk and these people are doing it gleefully.

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                  What part of “I get to say whatever the fuck I want because those are my opinions” doesn’t make sense here?

                  Promoting terrorism isn’t protected by free speech laws. Never was, never will be

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                I don’t think so.

                Many people have been calling anything speaking against Israel and its actions (genocide) in Palestine antisemitic, when it’s not saying anything about Jewish people or Judaism. Criticism against the existence of or actions of Israel is, more accurately, anti-Zionism, which isn’t racism and doesn’t deserve any special protection, just like criticism of American hegemony isn’t racism.

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        He literally supports terrorism on stream - no wonder he got in trouble

        Defamatory accusations like this literally need a video source.
        Hitchen’s razor: “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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          His takes are pretty well known outside of the echo chambers like this one. It’s worth noting that I delivered the proof and it got downvoted to oblivion - people here specifically DO NOT want to hear the truth

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            Where’s this proof? All I see is you linking to a video of him saying America deserved retaliation from all the peoples it’s fucked over, over the years.

            Insensitive and inflammatory sure, but it is not supporting terrorism.

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              I initially linked to open letter by congressman Torres that talks in detail about what Hasan said live on stream. That letter includes PDF with all the evidence - citations, and clips with all the shit Hasan said.

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                Thanks.

                Okay, so I’ve had a bit of a read. First off there is nothing to directly ‘confirm’ he supports terrorists, at best/worst he ‘has “no issue” with Hezbollah’ and he interviewed someone labeled the ‘Yemeni Pirate’ who went viral on TikTok leading to the aforementioned interview. This figure says they are not part of the Houthi, but they were on a vessel seized by the Houthi, he could simply be a paid mercenary so we can’t confirm or deny if they actually are Houthi.

                The Jewish stuff isn’t worth touching. It’s 100% going to be something critical of Israel/Zionism framed as antisemitism or terrorism.

                Mocking a Republican congressman and thanking the opposing side of the US invasion of Afghanistan for injuring them isn’t terrorism, it’s just funny af. Fuck Republicans.


                I’ve received a fair few reports for your posts tbh in regards to false accusations, but the Yemeni guy thing is a bit iffy, and he may have used his platform to promote a terrorist. So I’m going to leave it all up.

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                  Going out of his way to declare “No issue with Hezbollah” is the equivalent of support for terrorism IMO.

                  They started the whole suicide bombing thing with their killing of American soldiers in Lebanon. This went against Islam, but was given the green light by Ayatollah Khomeni and was weaponised by Assad.

                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr7T07WfIhM&amp%3Bt=32m32s

                  I Imagine you would not be defending someone if they were going around saying they have “no issue with pedos”.

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                  Thank you for small dose of sanity, even if I don’t agree with your interpretation of Hasans claims

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        Hasan has never supported terrorism on stream. Go back to drooling at the rat shaker

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        And fr0gan (part of his group) got a Twitch ban for literally wishing PTSD upon American soldiers.

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        Enjoy arguing with man children level arguments.

        Hassan is as much of a leftist as Srump or The Dipshit are right wing.

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    I’m starting to feel like a lot of the takes against Hasan are in bad faith. I watched a little recap and I felt it was both clear and obvious that YOU (normal person) shouldn’t do what he did.

    But being a notable person of interest who was already (questionably?) illegally caught up in a bad system, there’s reason to believe things wouldn’t take a turn for the better just because he asked to lawyer up. So he took a calculated risk and engaged with the situation enough to gather a first hand experience he could report on. Concrete evidence, there’s value in that. It was his decision to make.

    To reiterate, obvious YOU don’t do that. Stay silent, lawyer up.

    EDIT: Timestamped.

    EDIT: Timestamped, again. Same video.

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      Yeah you don’t have to watch Hasan for too long to realize that most objections against him are empty / bad faith. If he’s guilty of anything at all it’s getting distracted by / yelling at his chat too much. But I chalk that up to general Twitch culture. The reality is that he’s politically activating and engaging tens or perhaps hundreds of thousands of people who wouldn’t be otherwise, or would have been watching slop / right wing pipeline content instead. I wish there were more people like him in streaming, but obviously it’s a difficult niche to exist in.

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      They are in bad faith. If you watch a full argument from Hasan, it’s really difficult to not agree with him. The American centric view of the world is distorting everything. Step back, watch events from a different prospective, many things will be clearer.

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    These people get to ask Hasan head-empty questions for hours and get paid. To think his entire fanbase has been doing it for free this entire time

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    Pathetic, and for the record Hasan would interview Hamas, because interviewing someone is not an endorsement of someone if you aren’t a piece of shit fraud like the members of the Trump administration who treat interviews as theater to spread propaganda with no evidence are.

    Assuming someone interviewing someone you consider a threat is thus by association a threat of the same kind is a shockingly dangerous precendent to set and basically spells out the extinction of a free press in no uncertain terms.