Hi Raspberry Pi Community,

I would like to use radio remote’s control to trigger an events on my Raspberry pi.

I guess I’ll go with 433Mhz as I believe they are the most common available ?

So I will need a 433Mhz RX/TX Module to connect on the GPIO, so far I get it…

But how properly secure the communication between those remotes and the RPI to avoid any anyone to sniff the transmitting and replay it. In other words spoof it.

Wubba Lubba dub-dub…

  • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
    4·
    6 个月前

    You’d use one of the rolling code mechanisms like in a keyless entry system, garage door opener or a car key fob. Maybe symmetric or asymmetric cryptography instead or on top. Depends on the exact use-case. But you’d have to build the remote yourself, I don’t think that’s in the readily available consumer products.

    If you want it less complicated, have a look at Bluetooth or ESP-NOW. Wifi and Bluetooth and other protocols have encryption handled for you.

    • Rick_C137OPEnglish
      1·
      6 个月前

      Thanks hendrik

      But you’d have to build the remote yourself

      maybe in the future, but I don’t have the time for it now…

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      have a look at Bluetooth or ESP-NOW. Wifi and Bluetooth and other protocols have encryption handled for you.

      So it their Bluetooth or WiFi remote pilot existing for that ?

  • elmicha@feddit.orgEnglish
    21·
    6 个月前

    Does it have to be radio? Maybe infrared would be enough? You could use a TSOP 2438 as a receiver and any old IR remote.

  • Zachariah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    6 个月前

    Might be a good use for PGP. The signal can be snooped and spoofed, but the messages should be end-to-end encrypted.

    • ExperimentalGuyEnglish
      1·
      6 个月前

      Only problem with just using just pgp is that the signal would be vulnerable to a replay attack. I feel like a rolling code that’s encrypted using PGP might be the way so that the replay attack part is gotten rid of.

      All that’s to say, there’s probably some technical paper that details the best way to set up a system like this.

      • Zachariah@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 个月前

        Could it only accept serialized messages? Once it’s received a message, never accept the same exact message again.

        • tapdattl@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          6 个月前

          Well then you’d have to keep track of all messages recieved. An easier option might just be to sign the current system time, make sure the clocks are synchronized, and accept a +/- 1 second wiggle

          • Zachariah@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            6 个月前

            Wouldn’t it just need to know which is the highest message number it has seen? And then don’t accept that one or any lower ever again?

            If the count is within the encrypted message, no one can spoof anything higher.

    • Rick_C137OPEnglish
      1·
      6 个月前

      I’m open to all solutions :) But it there some ready Bluetooth remote pilot existing ?

    • ulternoEnglish
      0·
      6 个月前

      Is Bluetooth no good? Lots of protection baked in already.

      Well, if you have a 2 way communication capability anyway, it’s not particularly difficult to implement a key exchange, followed by data transmission using a temporary key, similar to HTTPS