Reddit probably hasn’t even noticed the drop in traffic. Lemmy is a very niche site that is a peanut compared to Reddit unfortunately. I don’t see it becoming mainstream any time soon because it’s too complicated to understand for the average Joe.
I consider myself to just be an average Joe and I don’t think Lemmy is too difficult to figure out. Moreso just a getting used to. I think the majority of people are just too lazy to put in the effort to get used to a new system, even if it is better in some areas than the previous system.
If you are already on this site, have an account and are actively participating you are way beyond the average Joe. The average Joe will only find out about lemmy a year from now 😂
Isn’t that ideal though? Surely the “above average joe’s” would help, and contribute to shape the place into what it can be to reach it’s full potential? It’ll give the server hosters more time to fix everything up. Certainly a lot of the people already here are going to be a lot calmer in response to bugs and glitches. Whereas if everyone joined straight away, it’ll just be like a massive urinal with huge amounts of stress on the servers.
Last report I saw had traffic numbers to their ad space still down about 20%. That’s definitely an amount they notice, though I’m sure they hope and believe it’ll go back up.
I definitely do not think they are calling any of us back per se, but on he other hand the way spez talks is definitely like someone who is in denial about being dumped.
The only thing I find difficult with Lemmy is the political part of it such as who defederated who and so on, the technical part of it is relatively easy.
True, but reddit has automod bots that will ban people if they participated in [bad sub] even if they never posted there, so there is an analogous defederation on reddit
I guess just follow the meta posts of the big communities.
From what I understood:
Nearly all the big instances defederated exploding-heads, which is one of those “we do not restrict your speech” instances (which we know is just a dogwhistle for nazis are welcomed here)
Beehaw defederated lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works because they didn’t want the flood of July 1st users to go shitpost in their subs until better moderation tools are available.
This is basically it. People are making it into a bigger deal than it is. Beehaw is specifically and purposely created as a safe space. That’s been their mission statement from the beginning. It’s incredibly easy to not make an account there if you’re not into that mission.
Reddit isn’t going to die, but as they shed their core user base the platform will have less and less to contribute until the only users left are extremely boring profitable drones. Just like Facebook is today. I don’t want those users, reddit does. Win-win
The average joe probably didn’t even use a third party client for Reddit and absolutely is not affected by the API changes. They’re going to browse reddit as if nothing happened.
I haven’t tried Mastadon, but I get your point. But I’m sure people would be confused about the instances and stuff. When you really want to try it out, then you typically have patience and see how things work. A lot of people just simply don’t care enough to try this when there was no issue with Reddit for them in the first place. I am trying to shift because I’m annoyed at Reddit, but someone who isn’t really has no reason to.
No, I don’t think it’s an issue. Lenny certainly doesn’t need most of Reddit to migrate. But if the number of users is a lot less, there will also be much less content. For me, the ideal scenario is to have a decent numbers of users, but nowhere close to Reddit’s (I’m almost totally sure that it won’t actually replace Reddit for the general public but I’m just hoping for enough users to make it a nice community with enough content).
That could be the case. But it can also go the other way lol, it could end up being a place where a smaller bunch of insane/bigoted/etc people get together.
@BackStabbath yes & no. Reddit had quite a few highly technical spaces.
We instituted an org wide blacklist of Reddit the other day, so no more redditing over here.
Now to find the fediverse equivalents to sysadmin net admin etc…
Yeah, I’m not surprised that a lot of people in the technical fields used third party apps. I’m talking about the general public that would never know Lemmy exists and would be bored if I even talked for two minutes about a cool app lol (and there are plenty of them).
Sorry for an unrelated question, but I have a doubt about instances. If I have this username and email for lemmy.world, can I use the same username and email for another instance? When I tried creating an account with these credentials on kbin.social, it didn’t work and said those values were taken.
Yes, you can use the same credentials on any other Lemmy instance. I’ve done this with 4 instances so far. There may be a chance your username is taken, but if you create accounts on the larger instances you should be good since the smaller user bases of the smaller instances probably won’t mean that you’ll be targeted.
Reddit probably hasn’t even noticed the drop in traffic. Lemmy is a very niche site that is a peanut compared to Reddit unfortunately. I don’t see it becoming mainstream any time soon because it’s too complicated to understand for the average Joe.
This isn’t a bad thing though
I consider myself to just be an average Joe and I don’t think Lemmy is too difficult to figure out. Moreso just a getting used to. I think the majority of people are just too lazy to put in the effort to get used to a new system, even if it is better in some areas than the previous system.
If you are already on this site, have an account and are actively participating you are way beyond the average Joe. The average Joe will only find out about lemmy a year from now 😂
Isn’t that ideal though? Surely the “above average joe’s” would help, and contribute to shape the place into what it can be to reach it’s full potential? It’ll give the server hosters more time to fix everything up. Certainly a lot of the people already here are going to be a lot calmer in response to bugs and glitches. Whereas if everyone joined straight away, it’ll just be like a massive urinal with huge amounts of stress on the servers.
Exactly lol
Last report I saw had traffic numbers to their ad space still down about 20%. That’s definitely an amount they notice, though I’m sure they hope and believe it’ll go back up.
I definitely do not think they are calling any of us back per se, but on he other hand the way spez talks is definitely like someone who is in denial about being dumped.
The only thing I find difficult with Lemmy is the political part of it such as who defederated who and so on, the technical part of it is relatively easy.
True, but reddit has automod bots that will ban people if they participated in [bad sub] even if they never posted there, so there is an analogous defederation on reddit
As a new user is there somewhere I can understand more about this defederation stuff? I’m just picking it up as I go and trying to piece it together
I guess just follow the meta posts of the big communities.
From what I understood:
That’s all for now I guess.
This is basically it. People are making it into a bigger deal than it is. Beehaw is specifically and purposely created as a safe space. That’s been their mission statement from the beginning. It’s incredibly easy to not make an account there if you’re not into that mission.
Reddit isn’t going to die, but as they shed their core user base the platform will have less and less to contribute until the only users left are extremely boring profitable drones. Just like Facebook is today. I don’t want those users, reddit does. Win-win
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The average joe probably didn’t even use a third party client for Reddit and absolutely is not affected by the API changes. They’re going to browse reddit as if nothing happened.
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I haven’t tried Mastadon, but I get your point. But I’m sure people would be confused about the instances and stuff. When you really want to try it out, then you typically have patience and see how things work. A lot of people just simply don’t care enough to try this when there was no issue with Reddit for them in the first place. I am trying to shift because I’m annoyed at Reddit, but someone who isn’t really has no reason to.
Is that a huge issue, though? I always had a feeling that the 3rd party users might be more civil.
No, I don’t think it’s an issue. Lenny certainly doesn’t need most of Reddit to migrate. But if the number of users is a lot less, there will also be much less content. For me, the ideal scenario is to have a decent numbers of users, but nowhere close to Reddit’s (I’m almost totally sure that it won’t actually replace Reddit for the general public but I’m just hoping for enough users to make it a nice community with enough content).
Yeah thats fair. I think k when something gets too big, then it becomes like less of a nicer place. E.g reddit. Twitter, Facebook.
That could be the case. But it can also go the other way lol, it could end up being a place where a smaller bunch of insane/bigoted/etc people get together.
@BackStabbath yes & no. Reddit had quite a few highly technical spaces.
We instituted an org wide blacklist of Reddit the other day, so no more redditing over here.
Now to find the fediverse equivalents to sysadmin net admin etc…
Yeah, I’m not surprised that a lot of people in the technical fields used third party apps. I’m talking about the general public that would never know Lemmy exists and would be bored if I even talked for two minutes about a cool app lol (and there are plenty of them).
yeah i just hope it doesn’t become abandoned like all the other reddit alternatives that came before
It really isn’t complicated though. If someone can understand email, they can understand Lemmy
Sorry for an unrelated question, but I have a doubt about instances. If I have this username and email for lemmy.world, can I use the same username and email for another instance? When I tried creating an account with these credentials on kbin.social, it didn’t work and said those values were taken.
You don’t need to create another account, just search/click on the communities you’re interested in from your own instance and subscribe to them.
Yes, you can use the same credentials on any other Lemmy instance. I’ve done this with 4 instances so far. There may be a chance your username is taken, but if you create accounts on the larger instances you should be good since the smaller user bases of the smaller instances probably won’t mean that you’ll be targeted.