• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    You’d sooner squeeze blood from a stone than shame from a capitalist.

    They’re incapable of shame.

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      He’s not an idiot because he’s a capitalist. It’s that capitalism encourages the idiotic type to try shit out, because those are the ones with most self-confidence. They’re mostly also the least likely to really consider the responsibilities such as: your employees depend on you now, if you fuck up majorly, you’ll screw over all your employees’ lives, potentially their families too, potentially irreversibly

      So yea, the function of “CEO” naturally attracts cretins.

      And God forbid such a moron’s business becomes even slightly successful, because guess who suddenly feels smarter, less accountable for his terrible character flaws and toxic behavior? That’s right. Usually, businesses which make it are mostly just lucky. But you can’t explain this to cpt douchebag, he thinks he’s magically smarter and better at life than anyone.

      And the better the company does, the more the Boss will indulge in his dysfunction and craziness.

      That’s why, statistically bosses are highly probable to be the scourge of humanity. It’s not just capitalism. it’s just the toxic mix of luck, power and stupidity - all three combined with whichever the boss’ character flaws and weaknesses are. Only in capitalism, power usually takes the form of money, that’s all. But the issue is even deeper with people.

      (i hate capitalism too, but I think blaming it all on capitalism and calling it a day isn’t gonna address such a fundamental issue with people. I come from an ex communist country and that shit is just equally toxic if brought to it’s extreme version - and for the same reasons to do with the human psyche too.)

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    It’s basic game theory and a race to the bottom. They either come together to set a bottom, do it by threat of violence or by law.

    Game theory pay workers less pay workers more
    Go easy on workers outcompeted outcompeted
    Squeeze workers profit outcompeted
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      Right, people miss this but its literally one of the basic ideas of capitalist production. Mom and Pop might be nice people but the market WILL destroy them if they don’t participate in the most cutthroat practices to stay competitive. Forces are at play that supercede the morality of any actor.

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    Bosses everywhere: So you’re saying we should get rid of the pizza party? Good idea, that’ll save the company money!

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    What I find interesting is that reigning in abuse at the behest of bosses / management / leadership would solve a gigantic number of problems in today’s society. ‘Nobody wants to work anymore’ is actually ‘nobody wants to be treated like shit by power-hungry psychopaths’. BUT, it is so difficult / impossible to change the intrinsic human assholification of anyone with power (see Stanford prison experiment), that companies will try anything else.

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        This is utterly fascinating. Thank you for providing this link. Funnily enough, my thoughts immediately went to “is Milgram any better?”. Seems like he might be, somewhat. The question for me then becomes:

        • can people be trusted with authority, on a general level? Are there studies to prove / disprove the adage that power corrupts / that people with personality disorders such as psychopathy or narcissism seek out (or thrive in, or are promoted to) positions of power?

        Thank you again, I shall revise my opinion from now on and seek out more studies on the matter.

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    This is all well and good, but remember that stereotypically they think that the latter is ok too.

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    Is it really a hard pill to swallow though? Im pretty sure everyone except sociopaths are onboard with this line of thinking

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      It is a hard thing to accept for the shitty bosses I thought.

      Tbh, I also considered there’s better memes to fit the idea but I haven’t found any right away. Considering it’s had decent amount of upvotes, if you like the idea but think the format ruins it, steal my idea and put it in the better format, there’s nothing wrong with that. Just wait 1w so people won’t be annoyed by the repetition. Maybe it’ll do better with your spin on it.

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    It shows maturity to understand multiple competing viewpoints. People-managers have limited budgets. Most of them are doing their best, fighting their hardest for their people, doing their best Ted Lasso impression. But they have a hard enough time getting pay increases to just keep up with inflation.

    That’s what can be so evil about corporations. Individual good people, doing their best within the limits imposed upon them, can be assembled into a giant engine of evil. The whole capitalism thing assumes each competing business can rise or fall according to merit and need. But I don’t believe it works.

    Posted from the comfort of a comfy software development job with a high salary, in support of a company creating wealth by extracting it from a captive customer base. And that’s the other evil part: make slightly more than 50% of us happy, so we can be content while the other 50% is treated so unfairly.

    Don’t forget to be kind and compassionate though. I’m serious. Making life hell for the managers who care, because of things like this they can’t control, isn’t the way to change things for the better.