I am much, much more likely to be willing to pay for Ublock than I am YouTube.
That’s interesting to me as someone who has paid for both lol.
Just curious, why would you not want to pay for YouTube knowing that some of that money makes it to the creators at least? Is that not enough? Is it a principal thing because they try to block the ad blockers now? Or do you think all video content should be free somehow with the creators making a living some other way?
I have been going through things I subscribe to lately and realized that the content on YouTube is probably the thing I watch the most. I genuinely like some of the people I watch videos of there and want them to do well. I like that some of them started their own streaming sites now so that’s nice but I also don’t want more streaming sites.
Well there are a few things to say about your comment. First, YouTube DOES pay content providers. However, most earn money from multiple sources like YouTube, Patreon, sponsors and merchandise sales. Out of those sources youtube is probably the most fickle. Their rules about canceling a channel or removing monetization are arbitrarily enforced and difficult or impossible to appeal.
The same can be said for the way viewers are treated. YouTube is a “free” service. They decided to operate this way, not us. Instead of, for instance, offering the streaming service as a paid subscription, they chose to essentially destroy the product and then ask for payment to fix it ( the so called poison pill). And don’t forget the notion that if you are not paying for the product, you ARE the product. I’m pretty sure that YouTube is collecting our information and profiting from it. And if they aren’t the parent company absolutely is. When you couple this with the thought that “suggested” content is designed to profit youtube, its easy to make the argument that it wasn’t actually free to begin with.
So bottom line is, I think people are fed up with relentless marketing and the form of marketing YouTube has chosen is the worst possible kind of marketing. This leaves those who have been users for a while and want to continue, with the choice of fighting this invasive advertising with ad blockers or paying for the service. The latter of which feels a lot like a reward for reprehensible behavior on the part of youtube.
In short, I think the chief complaint here is HOW youtube has gone about this. Anyway, that’s the way I see it. I use a lot of “free” services and youtube is by far the worst type of cost. Pandora, plays ads I have to listen to as the cost for that service but they aren’t nearly as bad about it and they never do it in the middle of a song, for instance. I use Wikipedia and they don’t market at all, just ask for a donation every now and then. I gave up and just paid for youtube premium. But I have to say it feels a bit like I was extorted, because I feel like I have seen enough ads for one lifetime. If at any point youtube starts showing ads with their paid service I will absolutely drop them like a hot potato, which would be a shame since, like you, I enjoy a lot of the content.
If youtube didnt consistently fuck over creators, and didnt have draconian and immutable copyright takedown and ad stealing policies, maybe Id consider it
But theyre too hostile to feel good giving money to. They dont work with creators or viewers, they try and undermine them. So Im not interested in doing as they ask.
why would you not want to pay for YouTube knowing that some of that money makes it to the creators at least?
do the math to find out what percentage of user subscription ends up in a creator they watch. Also do the math to find out how much is earning google vs how much money goes to the creator. Creators end up getting pennies. If you want to support your favourite creators do it differently. By believing that “least some money makes it to the creators” is what youtube has managed to make people believe so that they rationalize paying for a subscription.
Google have to fund their infinite persistent growth model somehow. It’s only fair to the share holders for the sake of their dividends
I support my favourite creators by buying their merch, subbing on Patreon and not skipping their sponsor segments (using their code to buy the product if I like it).
I don’t support Google, not because they show ads on YouTube, but because they track their users EXTENSIVELY and in most cases, without informing them properly or taking their consent, to personalize the ads on YouTube and everywhere else. This sort of tracking without consent should be illegal and I’m not paying them to keep this up.
It’s an end of an era. I’ve been on reddit for over a decade, and on youtube for even longer. Crazy to think I might be giving up both of those services within a few months of each other. Feels like the internet is dying. Oh well. Maybe I’ll go back to reading a shitload.
Other way around for me, 14+ years on reddit, youtube maybe 8 or so. Watched videos occasionally, but wasn’t really hooked on something. I feel that started when reddit got more mainstream and I wanted to consume media without the constant comment wars and downvote tirades. I’m sure that happens on youtube as well, but I just deactivated comments and done.
I’m not getting any ads and intrusions just yet with my blocker setup, but it really feels like the internet is changing. It grew up from being a rebellious teen to a mainstream adult, and that doesn’t sit right with me. Guess current generations will in time alienate the generation older than the internet to the point where we won’t feel at home anymore.
That’s a good analogy. The internet’s kind of like a gen-Xer, super into anti-establishment punk and grunge music, wearing nothing but Nirvana t-shirts well into its twenties, who woke up one day to find itself a NIMBY-esque middle-manager who votes every election for either corporate democrats or your mildly less homophobic Republican candidates and who cares about no issue beyond getting his taxes lowered. And the sad thing is, that’s the internet people wanted. We/they wanted it banal, tame, sanitized, and, ultimately, lifeless. All the porn is sequestered into its own little corner of things, where it used to just be everywhere (you couldn’t go to the front page of reddit without just seeing a ton of T and A) and all the media is hyper-sanitized because corporate sponsors want everything family friendly so they can feed the same advertising to kids that they do adults. And instead of interesting, new websites cropping up every other week that you find with Stumbleupon, it’s just screenshots of comments from 4 social media websites reposted ad-nauseam on each other and the same mundane youtube videos you’ve been watching on repeat the past 6 years. And now corporations like Google and Reddit are starting to go the extra mile and box people out of even quietly bypassing the web of bullshit they’ve put around the content they host, dictating not just what kind of content is available, but how you interact with it.
It kind of reminds me of this passage from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, where Hunter S. Thompson is talking about the sixties. You can read it here. He talks about strange memories, about this feeling like you were a part of an important time that meant something. The internet of the early 2010s was a special place. Alive and vibrant and strange and perfect for weirdo loners who couldn’t figure out how to interact with people in real life. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to fully quantify or describe how much of that time shaped me into who I am, or about what ideas and thoughts and beliefs that live within me that all those moments, aimlessly frittered away in some little corner of cyberspace gave rise to. Maybe I would have been better off if I never was an “internet person.” I know the changing of the time and the end of this era would hurt less. I know I wouldn’t feel so old seeing the internet, which was once something that felt like a good friend, dying of cancer-like greed and the pathological centralization of all its myriad services.
Perhaps this is the story of all history: of how new frontiers, like the “Wild West,” always become settled, and how we remember the best parts of what we experienced and try to forget all the bad parts of it, or forgive those flaws because they didn’t really affect us. I know the new internet is certainly kinder to women, LGBT persons, and people of color today than it was back then. And that’s good. And I know that the myths of history, of the Wild West, or the Gold Rush, or the early internet, or any other period of rapid settlement and development is never as neat and clean or as kind or even as “real” as we care to remember. And for the people who come afterwards, the way things are now will be all they know. They’ll never even think to wish the internet was different or better, because they weren’t there and they didn’t experience the internet with all its raw potential before it became a digital stripmall. And for all our lamenting, nothing will really change. There might be holdout places, small corners where nostalgia lives on. Virtual retirement homes for the internet’s senior citizens. And maybe that’s fine. Because nothing lasts forever. Things, people, places, ideas, they all die, and you just have to appreciate the time you had with them. And even the internet as it is now will die and give way to something new, even if it takes decades or centuries to happen.
But even with all that said, you just can’t help but wish the thing it became, in this moment, held more of the dreams of the people who actually helped make it.
That was easily the best-written, deepest-resonating diatribe that I’ve read on the Internet since the OG web. Thank you for giving voice to the pain I’ve been enduring.
Perhaps the whispered decentralized web 3.0 will take off, and I can meet you someday in the virtual tavern at the top of a hill, and we can toast to an exciting new frontier…
I was reading Bruce Sterling’s book the hacker crackdown and it describes the same sense of cultural freedom and possibility, but for phones/computers in the 80s and 90s and of how the open/freewheeling hacker culture got eaten by people turning to moneymaking (crime) and by subsequent government crackdowns. He even explicitly mentions how the same thing happened to the bohemian drug underground of the 60s
So I suspect this cultural pattern is kind of a regular thing, maybe mirroring our economic boom/bust cycles. Iirc both the oughts and the 60s were “on” decades while the 70s and teens had big economic crises.
For me personally the saddest instance of this is the proliferation of cultural and social experimentation in the early Soviet Union followed by well, the rest of soviet history
That sounds like an interesting book. I really like cybercultural history like that. There’s a book with an adjacent topic you might like, actually. It’s called The Cuckoo’s Egg by Clifford Stoll. He managed to start this massive investigation into a fairly prolific hacker who had infiltrated Berkeley computer systems in the late eighties and whose only “trail” he left behind was a few cents worth of network usage time. It’s a true story. Anyway, just a heads up.
The worst part about reddit was they made ads and legit posts look as similar as possible
Removing third part app support is probably worse
Maybe I’ll go back to reading a shitload.
I’ve been reading a lot more lately, and dear god, for your own sake, please do. I’ve been so much happier and less anxious reading books vs random internet garbage. Highly recommend.
Clearly you’re reading actual books, don’t drop down the webnovel rabbit hole. All those damn stories are designed to scratch an itch you never knew you had until you’re subbed to a dozen patreon’s paying way more than if you’d waited for a book release.
That’s good to hear. I’ve started reading Leonard and Hungry Paul and I like it so far. I’ve also started reading China Mieville’s The City and the City, which is also good, but Mieville has this weird thing where the more plot his novels have the worse they are. He’s great at describing a city as a living, breathing thing, though. That’s why the best parts of Perdido Street Station were the first 100 pages or so before the actual story really got started. Hopefully this novel doesn’t suffer from the same problems.
What about you, what have you been reading?
not dying, evolving
Rejuvenating. It’s the circle of life. The old have to die so that new life can spring from their corpses.
Evolution implies that old things die and new things take their place, so those are not mutually exclusive concepts. The thing taking its place is comparatively worse than the thing that came before it, though. Which is fucking annoying, but oh well.
Same I’ve been on YouTube since at least 2006 so almost 18 years 😭 (I’m turning 30 soon for reference) That’s a long ass time to be using any service. Times have changed
I still use YouTube as an indexer and redirect any watch-links to an Invidious instance.
Last time I checked, those are mostly limited to 720p. Is there a way to have 1080p over there, or am I missing something?
Depends on the instance, same as with livestream playback. You can check out active instances here and then just use one that does support 1080p.
I’m wondering whether all these things we do on the internet have been shit all along but they have just reached a threshold we can’t tolerate any more, no matter how addicted we are to it. Torrenting ebooks and films and then going into aeroplane mode is the way forward imo.
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I don’t really know how people can even use YouTube without ad blockers. Sitting through minutes of advertisement is not going to make me want to buy your product if I start mentally associating your product with frustration and annoyance. If these video ads are going to be repetitive and annoying, at least make them funny.
It seems like there is nowhere on the Internet to get away from ads currently, even here, where you thought you are safe, you are now reading an ad for my newest movie (you know the one), now also available on streaming!
It seems like there is nowhere on the Internet to get away from ads currently
Enshittification is spreading like a virus.
I would like to imagine a world where site advertising was reasonable. Ad blockers don’t exist, sites advertise 1 or 2 banners at $3-5 CPM and everyone gets paid and consumes content in synchrony. It won’t happen. Advertising is setup for ad blocking audiences and iOS cookieless environments. Everyone else subsidizes by viewing the myriad of placements splattered all over the page.
I’ll be watching a documentary about a horrible accident or murder and then grammarly pops up in the middle all cheery. Nice ad campaign there guys.
The weird thing about the whole advertising economy is the assumption that you are somehow denying them money by not watching their ads. It is as if they were thinking “Well, if you do watch the ads enough eventually you’ll cave in and spend $ on the product/service so by not watching our ads you are stealing from us.” No, I have no desire, and never will, to buy your product/service. It reminds me of the copyright proponents who think that if you copy something that is a lost sale. Well, if the price is unreasonable to me, or if I only have it because it is free, it was never a lost sale because I never would’ve bought it in the first place so you haven’t lost a cent.
Don’t get me on the sites that repeat the same ad on the same page a dozen times. Yah, the first 6 times didn’t get me but the next 6 have me sold!
They want you to remember their products. For example, you know that Grammarly is a text correction service. If the ads didnt exist you wouldn’t know that, so now if you want a service like this, instead of searching “top autocorrect tools” or something else, you would search “grammarly download”.
Sitting through minutes of advertisement is not going to make me want to buy your product if I start mentally associating your product with frustration and annoyance.
Thing is, it’s actually very easy to quantify whether or not these ads produce enough sales to justify their spend.
They piss of people, but they also work and drive sales that more than make up for the ad spend.
Sitting through minutes of advertisement is not going to make me want to buy your product if I start mentally associating your product with frustration and annoyance.
The thing is, we all like to think we’ll do this, but our frustration just gets mapped on to YouTube itself. In 6 months, after the specific frustration has long passed, the influence of that ad will still be there, and who you’ll remain wary of is YouTube.
It’s too customized to trick kids into buying shit out of pure overstimulation. These fakefluencers will literally be screaming and shaking their tits with the camera being focused straight at their cleavage, all while losing in a obviously animated gameplay video and ending it by pouting and saying “If only I had more gems to spend so I could win!!!”
Agreed. Also, it’s not YouTube’s content to sell. YouTube doesn’t create content. It only exists because we (the users) upload the content to make that possible.
There are places like that, even with YouTube, but you usually have to pay rather than use the ad-supported free product. (Assuming ad blockers don’t work well any longer)
I use Youtube without ad blockers only on my tv, where I have no alternatives, and it’s so annoying
Even superstars are too cheap to pay for Premium, eh?
I’m not cheap, I’m frugal, there is a difference.
Paying Google for them to stop shoving ads in my face doesn’t feel like a good purchase and I don’t want to support that kind of behavior, and I’m smart enough to use uBlock Origin and ReVanced (Little bit of a struggle though.)
It’s more about principle than anything else.
@MargotRobbie As a creative on strike I would have thought you would have felt some solidarity with the content creators who make 50% of the ad revenue you are withholding from them by blocking ads.
I pay for premium because I can’t stand ads but I do want to support creators with a share of my subscription, even though I know it is less than they would have made if I watched the ads. I thought maybe you would feel the same given you aren’t hurting for money either.
I know it is not a perfect system, but I do appreciate the content creators I watch enough to want them get payed. I subscribe to Nebula too for this reason, though I admit I should use it more.
Have you watched the ending of that movie? Refusing to participate in a broken system is always an option.
If you would like to support your favorite creators, buying their merchandise or donating to them would be far more effective.
I really don’t know how people can ever use YouTube.
people say “yeah i stayed up too late last night, I went down a youtube rabbithole you know?” and I’m like No! I actually don’t know! How the fuck are you watching crap on youtube for hours??
What I don’t get, is that people whine and bitch on every post about YouTube doing stupid shit to fuck over the content creators, and then when it’s suggested that they stop using YouTube, it’s:
”NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo! Not my precious U-Toobs!”
The content creators are on youtube though. You can tell users to switch platforms but unless rhe creators do users won’t do it.
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i watch too many video essays and im a music junkie so i go down music rabbit holes. different strokes for different folks i guess
Adblockers are eventually just going to become undetectable because of this. Adblockers are about to get so much better!
I would argue that next step YouTube is going to pull is just in time video mixing where they will overlay add on top of your video. This would make adblockers unable to block since it’s indistinguishable from regular video. However efforts like SponsorBlock would become dominant way of blocking ads. At which point YouTube will probably resort to preventing skipping video while ads are playing.
At not poing will it occur to them all of that is a waste of time and that there are smarter ways to earn money without gouging people’s eyes out. At the moment this is not happening because it’s too CPU intensive.
We already have sponsorblock for that.
They could use inline commercials.
They could also disable viewing while not logged in, they count the minutes you’ve watched content vs the minutes of commercials that content was supposed to have and block your account.
Addblocker that runs a second instance in the background that watches the add for each video to make up the time.
I think there’s an addon for Twitch that does exactly that. It switches to a different feed when Twitch tries to play an ad, then switches back after it’s done.
How can Google make money off of YouTube without ads or Premium?
Just like GMail is bringing them money. Initially it’s not obvious but then you realize because of it they dominate the search market and have a service which most people use to lock themselves in. That then extends to Android, etc.
Gmail makes sense as money maker. Running email at the scale they do is really cheap and they can run ads against it.
One YouTube video probably uses as much bandwidth as a month’s worth of a typical account’s usage.
That’s my point, GMail made no sense initially. All the other email services had free tiers with bunch of ads or you could get GMail for free. Everyone wondered how this pays off for Google, but in enough time it becomes obvious.
Google is no stranger to killing their own services. The fact they are not killing YouTube means it holds value even if it’s losing money.
Gmail made sense for Google when it was released. No one questioned it as there were already several other players in the market. The only real selling point at that time was Google offering 1 GB of storage for free with ads while other services were offering less. That other services switched to meet Google’s number rather quickly was more a sign that Google priced storage per user better at the time while other services had kept their legacy storage allowances.
Plenty of ways. Targeting your most intensive tech crowd is not the way to do it. You want the masses that don’t actively try and block their stupid ads. This will eventually bite them in the ass harder then it’s currently doing.
You want the masses that don’t actively try and block their stupid ads.
So you’re saying that YouTube shouldn’t want people with adblockers as users of the platform?
No I’m saying, imo, they’re wasting a lot of energy on trying to get adblock users to stop using adblockers. Just my take, is all.
Well, people who use adblockers don’t make them money and, if enough people do it, revenue tanks.
I think there’s no tenable solution unfortunately, but for me personally, as a viewer, I’d be happy to watch a single start video ad if I knew a half decent proportion went to the creator.
But with the way YouTube is to the creators, how unfair and unbalanced they are with copyright, the clear vision that they’re not doing things for the people but for corporate (removal of dislike count), I have no guilt continuing to block ads and essentially give the finger to the platform.
Once all the major creators I watch move to a better platform, I’d be rid of YouTube entirely in my life and I hope that’s what happens on a major scale.
Until Web Environment Integrity is introduced. Then watching youtube will only be available from a Chromium-based browser.
to people saying YouTube is a moneysink for google:
yes it is, if you just look at direct expenses of running it. but you’re overlooking the fact that it has enabled google to amass so much data(we’re taking about 500 hours worth of videos being uploaded per minute) that they can train anything with it.
it’s a service that’s too big to fail. even whole governments, courts, and other institutions depend on it. so, I refuse to believe that YouTube will be non-existant because a sliver of users refuse to be profiled by invasive advertisements.
their data is worthless if they can’t serve ads
They’re serving ads just fine. They’re now targeting those that don’t want the ads and actively try to avoid them. That’s the main difference.
The data has so many more uses than just ads. They sell the data, use it to train AI, etc. The data itself is more valuable than their entire ad network.
Suck my balls Google
Present them
Okay Google, show me your balls
They might, but you’ll have to watch ads while they do it.
If you’re using uBlock Origin. Go to “Filter Lists” and Purge All Caches. That may help.
I imagine they’ll eventually find a way to prevent us from blocking ads. Twitch TV for example has found some ways to make adblock useless.
It’s a shame, and it’s really just a side effect of google racing to the bottom of the adspace game. If ads weren’t as cheap as they are today, they wouldn’t be trying to maximize the amount of users who are forced to see advertisements.
Someone will create an extension to mute the ad and overlay it with suitably timed bite sized cat videos.
Oh, that’s just brilliant! Instead of being interrupted by intrusive ads, I’m seeing videos of fluffy cats doing adorable and funny stuff all the time.
Worst case scenario I think I’d just resort to downloading the videos to watch. Live videos is the challenge, but luckily I don’t watch live streams.
I just did the zap element thing on that warning. So far so good, except you can’t scroll down.
I see this as an absolute win, since that means you don’t have to read YouTube comments.
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Lmao
…temporarily it might help
Can we pin this?
Next tactic to stop adblocking: we will come to your house and break your fucking legs if you even THINK about installing ublock
Then a few days later ublock removes it
Imagining uBlock releasing the notes for that one.
“Created emergency response team to break the kneecaps of Google’s kneecap breaking squad.”
They’ll send someone to your apartment and make sure you consume the ads. No blocking, no muting, no looking away.
Reset Ublock orgin and update the filter and Ublock extension. Disable other adblock extension if you have one. Still you would be getting the popup once a while.
yea i just fully turned it on and off, worked perfectly after
- 2025: Search removed. Spend a decade crippling the function, then claim the usage data support getting rid of it!
- 2027: Expiring updates. Juice those watch numbers with a new artificial scarcity measure. Marvel Bullshit 49 Theatrical Trailer, available for seven days only! Featuring AI Robin Williams and a Mr B_ast guest ad!
- 2028: Web Environment Integrity inserted. Hand warmer sales crater as mobile viewers relish their new handset functionality.
Eh, don’t need YouTube that badly. I think we’ll collectively figure out video distribution without em just fine.
And we can call it something like… I don’t know… PeerTube?
Hell yeah, brother 😎
I haven’t seen anything come close to competing with youtube as a centralized video source, everything from documentaries to DIY instructional videos. Sure the idea seems simple but the problem is their success and vast repository keeps us locked in.
It is more that we, as users, have become a lot more lazy.
It was rare for one company to host most of the content. Instead, content would be distributed across different websites.
Issues like these will spur action though. I’m excited to see what comes out to compete.
Not sure your age and I sincerely do not want to critique it either or come across as ageist, but I remember a world without YouTube and all this crap. We’re going to be ok if we don’t go to YouTube. Not trying to be flippant - really. I understand the monopolistic conundrum we find ourselves in.
This is where voting and advocating for real legal solutions comes in. Is that easy - no. However there has been progress in the EU and Warren/Cruz are sponsoring a digital rights bill too. If that fails, we keep pushing. It is possible and the encouraging part is that the more they (Google, fb, Amazon, etc.) reveal of their trap the easier it will be for us to pressure politicians.
Younger folks have allies in older non techy people too. Those folks feel bewildered by their phones, computers, etc. Politicians certainly listen to them and if they have their grandchildren agreeing with them that tech companies are crazy. I almost guarantee they’d agree. See Elizabeth Warren and Ted Cruz co-sponsorship as some evidence. Talk to folks y’all!
Also, your library has a lot of content if you are looking for documentaries.
Kind of sounds like you have tried nothing and you’re all out of ideas. Can’t say I blame you. Complacency and feelings of no way out is where they want you.
Spolier monopolies! No one changes until they are under pressure and feel trapped. They’re feeding the fire of their own undoing.
I remember life before deregulation of media :(
Kind of sounds like you have tried nothing and you’re all out of ideas. Can’t say I blame you. Complacency and feelings of no way out is where they want you.
Absolutely not, I look around, but the vast majority of amateur videos are only on youtube. You won’t find them at the library.
Youtube is getting on cable tv levels of bad. On a regular ~10min video you will first deal with a few preroll ads and at least one is unskippable, then the creator will have a 2+ minute sponsor segment (I don’t mind those since they are usually well presented). There will also be multiple midroll ad spots.
Depending on video length, it’s gonna soon be literally more ad than video. They are still stealing and selling your data though, and also making the web worse for everyone with DRM shit.
Fuck. Google.
I had already migrated to Invidious since last year because I degoogled everything. Seems like now its time to look for real youtube alternatives.
Invidious is having trouble to work these days. I fear google will also pull the plug on third party front ends once they get popular enough.
“allowlisted” topkek
Unpopular opinion: They should’ve just started charging big creators, kind of like Vimeo. Mofos be having youtube ads, sponsorships, built-in ads, courses, merch stores and patreon, and then they whine when youtube wants them to comply with advertiser’s demands.
YT Creators get paid a share of ad revenue and that is what funds their channel. Charging them would just kill a lot of channels.
That’s completely true for smaller creators, but YouTube is more than just people who rely on adsense for the livelihood. I don’t think Jimmy Kimmel or Taylor Swift would miss a few dollars, even a few hundred, a month to be on the platform.
So how do you implement it?
Good. It’s the same for me as regular businessee: if you can’t make a profit while don’t breaking the law, you shouldn’t make business.
It’s already regular business, they aren’t breaking any laws by running a channel and getting ad revenue…
Here are a couple argument why it shouldn’t be legal:
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Patreon: In the real world, you can’t just give money to a business for nothing, there has to be some kind of value exchange. Patreon probably has some bullshit in their TOS that you’re not actually donating, but buying some “perks”, but that’s not what a lot of youtuber’s convey in their messages. To accept donations the “right” way, they would have to register a non-profit entity, then they’d have to publicly report exactly how much they received and spent, from where and on what. If they also do ads they’d have to also have a separate for-profit entity, and overall they’d have to be very careful with how they use the money as the non-profits can’t just give money away either. None of the youtubers I’ve seen actually do this.
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Ad integrations: It should definitely be against Youtube’s TOS to have ads inside the video (and possible other sponsored deals), because most major channels can easily find their own funding, disable google’s ads and use their infrastructure without paying squat. And if they don’t, by doing advertisement themselves they’re still Google’s competitors, as you can’t shove infinite amount of ads in a video - the viewer’s patience is limited and they tend to either leave the platform or set up ad-blockers, both of which cut into Google’s revenue. So what I meant by “charging creators” initially, was some kind of deal among the lines of “If your video reaches 100.000 views, you owe us $0.10 per 1000 views over that, unless your video has ads enabled and not demonetized” or something like that.
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You absolutely can give people money for nothing, and the receiver pays taxes on the amounts unless they fall under specific circumstances such as charity organization.
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You have to select that your video contains advertisements during the upload process. Failure can result in a channel strike, and three strikes can lead to channel deletion (which can result in a huge monetary loss for the channel owners).
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Idk if that would be a good business decision. They would want it to be free and easy to start a channel still, so it would mean once your channel gets to a certain popularity google makes the deal progressively worse. This would create a big incentive for competition if all your biggest content creators are suddenly paying over cost to subsidize smaller channels.
Not that this would be a bad thing, but I don’t see why google would ever want to risk it.
Is this really an unpopular opinion?
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I think there is going to be a time when ublock alone cannot simply program their way out of this, they will need help eventually from a completely different approach like anti ablock killers or some other app that hide the blocker itself from detection
https://openuserjs.org/scripts/reek/Anti-Adblock_Killer_Reek
