The Intercept conservative?! The Nation conservative?! What gives?

  • @[email protected]
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    11 months ago

    Just because you don’t like the top result doesn’t mean it is irrelevant EDIT: I am in fact an asshole. I see the problem now 😂

    • hedgeOP
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      3111 months ago

      True, but I don’t think those periodicals would normally (or ever) characterize themselves that way.

    • hedgeOP
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      1211 months ago

      You’re not an asshole, no worries 🙂

  • Steal Wool
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    3111 months ago

    Im still looking for the weird thing going on at duckduck

    • hedgeOP
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      1311 months ago

      I’m on Fennec, searching DuckDuck from the address bar. Here’s another one:

      • Steal Wool
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        Weird I just searched and got totally different text, can’t upload the screens screenshot tho

        A Current Affairs subscription is one of the best known ways to improve your life in a hurry. Our print magazine is released six times a year, in a beautiful full-color edition full of elegant design, sophisticated prose, and satirical advertisements. Tell me more How Anti-Homeless Sentiment Made Its Way Into Popular Cartoons Alex Skopic

        The Dangerous Populist Science of Yuval Noah

  • @[email protected]
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    3111 months ago

    Yeah where are those descriptions coming from? Also mentions “the strike workers’ strike” and repeats “politics” twice

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      11 months ago

      Seems like a poorly trained ML model - crudely speaking, perhaps its training set was tilted towards descriptions of conservative news sites so it learned to insert the word “conservative” when describing a news site.

      • tuckerm
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        3111 months ago

        I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but that does sound like a very possible explanation.

        Poo. I was hoping DDG would keep LLM-generated summaries out of their UI.

        • @[email protected]
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          1711 months ago

          My guess is that they’re surfacing something from Bing rather than doing this themselves. Still Not Good, though.

    • radix
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      That makes it sound like an outdated LLM, like GPT-2 or something. You think it is?

      • hedgeOP
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        411 months ago

        Alas, not smart enough to know 🙁

        • @[email protected]
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          “Smart WordPress sites”, now that’s an oxymoron!

          But do please tell how you figure out if a plugin will be caught having a vulnerability or not.

            • @[email protected]
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              The fact that you can audit it has zero value.

              People don’t audit anything, and pretending that they do is hopeful at best, deceitful at worst.

              Even if you audit it you are likely not understanding the code well enough to figure out if it is vulnerable.

              Which leads back to my original point which thus still stands; there’s no smart way to choose non-vulnerable plugins. One can obviously avoid things that don’t meet certain standards (popularity, lines of code, known issues, how they’re resolved, etc.), but still doesn’t guarantee anything.

              This means that your statement about “smart Wordpress sites don’t pick vulnerable plugins” is frivolous. May I suggest “smart Wordpress sites chooses plugins carefully and limits the amount to those strictly necessary, but should still pay attention to updates patching issues”. Because that’s the difference between smart and dumb. Dumb sites are just left running whatever they shipped with, PHP or not, and smart devs make sure to keep their system and/or CMS and plugins up date.

              And if you still want to argue that people actually review the code they depend upon I have one word for you: Heartbleed.

  • @[email protected]
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    1111 months ago

    It did the same for me.

    I clicked on the link then went back and the description calling it conservative was gone.

  • tuckerm
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    1111 months ago

    It showed me the same thing, but after searching again a few times I’m now seeing a summary of the articles on their homepages.

    Side note: I’ve had a weird bug a few times with DDG lately, where it showed me results for current events that were completely unrelated to what I was looking for. I searched for something like “10 inch chef’s knife” but the results were as though I had typed “US house of representatives speaker.” This has happened maybe three or four times in the last two weeks.

    • @Pantrygheist
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      111 months ago

      Something weird that happens to me is that when I scroll past the first page of results it shows a bunch of “local” results that be nothing to do with my search, like hotels and restaurants when I’m doing some troubleshooting. Is that some sort of ad serving from Bing?

    • hedgeOP
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      711 months ago

      Interesting that allsides has The Atlantic as being on the liberal side of things; Mrs. Hedge describes it as “a make work project for unemployed neocons.” David Frum, the “axis of evil” guy, is a regular contributor there .

  • KinNectar
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    211 months ago

    @hedge because they aren’t using the political compass. Two or three political dimensions with only two words describing them leads to meaningless labeling.

    • hedgeOP
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      111 months ago

      That would explain it! I think I remember seeing Jacobin as being the same degree of liberal as The Atlantic, and there’s no way that could be right! Oops, I mean “correct.” 🙄

  • Feyter
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    111 months ago

    I don’t know any of these sides, but since “conservative” doesn’t really have a real definition it’s technically correct.

  • I Cast Fist
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    111 months ago

    No mentions of “conservative” anywhere for the intercept in my results. Problem with mobile only? I’m in Brazil, too.