• DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Hamas uses movie scenes, video games, and made up statistics. Why would you believe them over Israel?

    • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
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      tbf, Israel has blamed terrorism before and later it’s emerged that it wasn’t

      I think we need to rely on evidence rather than either side’s propaganda

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        The question is: did Israel change their official stance or did they stay with the original message? If they changed the official stance, after learning new facts, I can see nothing wrong with that.

        I have never heard of a Terrorist Organization on the other hand, to suddenly accept the blame for something that cannot get factually disputed anymore, where they put the blame on their enemy before.

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          It’s a fine line between owning up only because you’ve been caught though. It’s happened on at least 3 occasions

          Hamas is both a terrorist organisation and the government of Gaza. There’s plenty of times when a mistake gets blamed on the enemy in war.

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            Ok - if I understand you correctly, Israel has been „caught“ several times. If it has happened that many times as you say - there must be some kind of report about it. Do you have a link for me?

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              The IDF initially denied responsibility for killing Abu Akleh and pointed the finger at Palestinian gunmen. But investigations by the United Nations and several news organisations concluded that the journalist was not near Palestinian gunfire when she was killed, and that Israeli forces were almost certainly responsible. The UN said that Israeli soldiers fired “several single, seemingly well-aimed bullets” at Abu Akleh and other journalists.

              In September, the IDF finally admitted that one of its soldiers had probably shot her but said there would be no criminal prosecutions because no laws had been broken and declared the case closed

              https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/14/shireen-abu-akleh-killing-israel-fbi-investigation

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          At first Israel celebrated doing it on Twitter, later they changed their story and said it was Hamas.

          So they did change their story, but it doesn’t bode well for them as it further paints the story that Israel did it and is covering it up.

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            Source? Sincerely asking. I’ve seen this claim made, but don’t know its source and claims are a dime a dozen right now.