Something I’ve been thinking about: independent security projects often face pressure once corporate partnerships or funding enter the picture.
Does GrapheneOS have any structural safeguards to ensure development priorities remain community-driven if hardware vendors become more involved?
I’m not assuming there’s a problem — just interested in how projects like this avoid the “venture capital influence” problem that has affected other open source initiatives.
I really hope motorolla just does a regular unaltered Graphene OS and not some skinned version of it
This genuinely so fucking smart from Motorola. Whomever is greenlighting this needs major kudos. We’re in a world where everyone wants to move away from US technology now and Google/Apple have monopolized the market. Motorola is making this move RIGHT when everywhere else is going “Is there literally nothing else we can use???” Good play esp as they need to up the specs on a new device to handle Graphene. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.
Isn’t Motorola still a US company though? How is this a move away from US tech?
Nope, moto mobility is owned by lenovo. So chinese.
Looking at Wikipedia now, Motorola Mobility is owned by Lenovo but still a US based company, so kinda the worst of both, no?
Better than American owned and operated.
While I’m happy that it’s Motorola, i just wish someone like Fairphone also bites the bullet of investing in a proper encryption chip that’s acceptable to Grapheneos. I’d like to see more or a trifecta (duofecta?) of trustworthy OS and sustainable/committed manufacturer.
Now is this the REAL Motorola or is it the brand name that Lenovo got a hold of. Cause real Motorola doesnt make consumer phones anymore.
Lenovo’s Motorola, if you ask me. I don’t think there’s much left at all from original Motorola. But they had a decent track record with their recent phones, AFAIK. Not that I’ve owned any from Motorola.
I have a Motorola phone, I like it. It’s at least better than the Samsung I had before.
My wife’s previous phone was a Moto One Hyper. Pretty well made device, especially for the price.
I currently own the 2023 Motorola edge+ and love it. Its got flagship features at like half the price. I bought it for like $700 2-3 years ago.
- Snapdragon 8 gen 2
- 8GB RAM
- 512GB storage
- IP 68
- Triple camera 50-50-12MP
- Stereo sound
- WiFi7, Bluetooth LE
- NFC
- Fingerprint sensor under the screen
- 68W charging
The ONLY real drawback that I’ve had over 2 years is that the front glass is curved and breaks too easily for being Gorilla Glass. The curved design also means that case options are super limited so its a double whammy.
I have a 2021 Moto edge still going strong
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GrapheneOS requires I think a few other things, like the possibility to completely disable the data lines in the USB port, and a bunch of others.
The problem with Fairphone is that they have rather high demands (e.g. long term support for hardware, better production practices) but they are a rather small outfit, so the default answer from parts manufacturers is “talk to the hand”.
As they grow they’ll become more interesting
I would argue that Fairphone with /e/OS is a combination of a committed/sustainable manufacturer with a trustworthy OS. It does not actively spy or screw with you, and it tries to prevent snooping in many places.
Of course it’s not nearly as security hardened as GrapheneOS, so that may be an unacceptable compromise to some.
like the possibility to completely disable the data lines in the USB port
the fairphone 4 can do that, calyxos makes use of it
I think they just released the fair phone 6 not too long ago so it’ll take a while even if it’s on the tables.
I know…I guess it’s just wishful thinking for the future. I’ve gotten a 2nd hand pixel pro last year. That’s…a lot of storage and memory, just about as much as my laptop. Should last me for a while (I hope it won’t physically break for any reason!), so I won’t immediately ride this Motorola wave anyway.
motorolas are available worldwide, i’d ratherit be them over some no name manufacturer
Bifecta?
Bifteki!
Now I’m hungry
Fairphone has a slightly different focus, mainly sustainability and ethics (labour rights, production). Graphene’s more on the privacy side.
Would be dope though, to have it on there as well.
Fairphone does partner with Murena for e/os. It’s pretty similar to grapheoneOS
I wouldn’t say that it’s pretty similar.
They have rather different goals and feature sets.
Sent from my FP4 with /e/OS.
They are more similar than they are dissimilar. Only uber nerds see the differences more prominently
Im sorry, I think your have spelled LinaegeOS, an OS thats not even security based but to support old Hardware which security has already been compromised by missing Firmware.
If we want GOS to grow, we need to welcome and help people understanding the differences. We don’t need to be pedantic schmucks.
Sent from my GrapheneOS phone
If you want to convince GOS users to occasionally drop their sense of superiority, it looks like you have your work cut out for you.
I hope people don’t feel superior because they use a tool.
I use Arch, BTW.
You know, I’d love a razr flip with graphene. Bring it on.
Ooo I’m sure this is likely for future models, but I was actually pondering getting a cheap pixel to try out graphene and see what it’d be like compared to my Razr. Maybe I’ll have to wait a bit to see how this develops.
You can find older pixels on swappa for cheap - my understanding is that we won’t see a GrapheneOS phone earlier than 2027 (which admittedly is only 9 months away).
which admittedly is only 9 months away
Don’t you dare say such a thing
(which admittedly is only 9 months away).
More like 10+however long it takes for it to complete months
I got my Pixel 9a for just around 500 euros.
That would be so awesome
Those were the days.
The best thing about Motorola is that they ship with a very stock android ROM. It’s also the worst bit, because there’s nobody maintaining any software. Handballing software maintenance to GrapheneOS would be sweet.
Since when is Graphene’s logo a football and Motorola’s the Super Mario M?
It’s AI slop.
Sounds like a good choice. Motorola has some very good budget phones and also good high-end phones. All running pretty clean versions of Android. I hope GrapheneOS will support both a flagship (or midrange) and a budget phone.
This is hilarious to me because other than a Samsung once (which made me go back) I had only moto… Until when I finally upgraded I wanted grapheneOS so pixel it was. Very happy about this.
I Fucking love Motorola, I’m cumming as I’m reading this. Thank you Motorola.
The new phone is going to be called the Motorola Jizzr
Same. I don’t think I could use a phone without the chop to turn on flashlight thing.
At first I though the chop was so useless but I use it all the time now, lol.
Everybody is always amazed when I do it while they’re still stumbling around looking for their flashlight toggle lol
Unfortunately I was an idiot and uninstalled it when I was debloating my phone. I reinstalled moto actions, but the chop for flashlight doesn’t work unless it’s recently after a reboot (the turn for camera does though). Legitimately temped to make a backup then factory reset my phone to get it back.
why in the thumbnail is it neither org’s logos?
Interesting catch, weird AI image maybe?
Man I can’t WAIT. Next up: Fairphone
lineage already works on those
That’d be a dream!
It’s great to see a mainstream OEM work with GOS. I really hope Motorola will make phones with an actual headphone jack. That’s my no. 1 complaint about modern Pixel hardware.
they still do have jacks in some of their low and mid devices
Yeah this is cool. Could have been much worse than Motorola. Looking forward to this
This is how a functioning capitalist system should work. Companies competing against each other for the benefit of the consumer.
The purpose of a system is what it does. Capitalism is functioning, it’s just that we’re not the beneficiaries.
Haven’t had a Motorola in many years. Hopefully this works out well and we get a really nice piece of hardware that isn’t subject to the whims of Google.
