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      17211 months ago

      A symbol for back-alley abortions. Dangerous, painful, and scary, representing some of the most important reasons why legal abortion is necessary. One assumes the slash through it means “abortion should not be illegal”, but I have to admit it’s not the clearest symbol in the bunch.

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          711 months ago

          It’s less that the wire hanger is an unknown icon of the abortion struggle (it isn’t), and more that the symbol is presented in an unclear way: does the slash mean “no abortions”? Or “no, abortions!” The thing is, both forced birth advocates and pro choice advocates would hate the wire hanger, just for different reasons.

          • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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            911 months ago

            Risky abortions have been around since time immemorial. The coathanger arose during the 20th century as an alternative to poisoning one’s self with pennyroyal or ascorbic acid to induce a miscarriage.

            The point of modern abortions is they are safe, and in fact considerably safer than pregnancy. Our anti-abortion community wants to punish women for participating in sex, even when they do not consent, either by suffering through pregnancy or through a risky miscarriage.

            And their other policy positions reveal they have no actual interest in the welfare of the child.

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        1411 months ago

        So it’s a symbol in suppprt of safe and legal abortions? I mean I guess it’s better than having a baby crossed out or smth.

    • @[email protected]
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      3911 months ago

      Anarchism. The circle-A drawn like that (without the lines extending beyond the circle) is how it’s traditionally drawn.

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        711 months ago

        i don’t understand how most of lemmy is pro-communist but also pro-anarchist at the same time

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          2111 months ago

          Anarchism and communism are 95% the same in regards to goals. They just have different views on how to get there, that differ very little or a lot depending on the specific sub ideology, of which there are many. The 5% with different goals are some anarchist tendencies which want to keep markets and money, like mutualism. Everyone else wants a stateless, moneyless and classless society where people contribute according to their ability and receive according to their need on the basis of mutual aid. And no, “anarcho”-capitalism is not a thing, that’s an oxymoron.

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            511 months ago

            Personally I’d be a ok with just some wealth redistribution, but everyday without that I am getting more radicalized.

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          1311 months ago

          Sounds like you should learn more about the history of the two concepts then, because they’ve never been mutually exclusive.

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          I guess their different mental images of the final step of an ideal economic system under their chosen system has a lot of overlap.

      • @Nash42
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        Is it possible the legs of the A extend beyond the circle in cases where the symbol is spray painted?

    • DrDominate
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      3711 months ago

      I think it’s more pro abortion because banning abortion leads to a rise in unsafe “coat hanger” abortions.

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        911 months ago

        This. I was confused with it at first, especially because it was in an ambiguous circumstances. But it does make sense, come to think if it there is no real symbol for anti-abortion you can easily cross out and expect everyone to know what it means.

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          2311 months ago

          Until the fetus can survive outside the womb, it’s not a person, it’s a part of the person carrying it. And nobody should be allowed to dictate what a person can and can’t do to themself, but themselves.

          Total Bodily Autonomy, motherfucker.

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          1711 months ago

          The aborted fetus might be a future criminal because the baby was born into poverty.

          At the end of the day it isn’t black and white and women should have the right to choose. Since it’s their body. Also baby != Fetus

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          911 months ago

          All right but the right went from “personal freedom is everything” to “the state should monitor the schedule of your periods and crossing state borders to get an abortion is equivalent to first degree murder”

      • katy ✨
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        211 months ago

        anti putting your clothes away pro making a new cat bed

  • @[email protected]OP
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    911 months ago

    After so many comments, i would like to say that my intention was to post a inclusive image.