Is there a polymarket where I can bet how long it’ll be before Kegbreath’s “pastor” is caught with CSAM?
You know damn well that he is gayer than mayor mcgayerson at the gay day parade during gaytowns gay days celebration gala. A self hating gay man. That’s really the tragedy. Now, everyone is the enemy and all he can do is spread the toxicity.
Does that count as a death threat?
Two answers.
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Yes, as a layperson, this like either a direct threat or at very least an incitement to violence. If this is wrong, lawyers please chime in :)
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Unless there are charges, it might as well be legal. Laws, rights etc mean nothing if the enforcement behind them is corrupted. That doesn’t mean there are no laws for us, but it does mean that laws hold far less weight against those in power.
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Surely if a church cannot support a political candidate without losing tax-exempt status, then calling for the death of a candidate should mean they lose tax exemption and then pay double taxes.
The tax exempt thing should really be reformed
The first time I really thought about it, I was surprised that churches were willing to let the government tell them what they were allowed to preach in exchange for money.
But then I realized that it was proof that all churches are scams. If you’re a tax exempt church in America, then you’re doing it for the money, not because it is morally right.
Jesus himself said the money belongs to Caesar.
Christianity is a fraud.
Eliminated, you say? I agree.
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These people are sick.
You mean that’s not what Jesus would do?
Probably is what Jesus would do.
The only reason he wasn’t a white supremacist is that he wasn’t white.
, or hateful, or murderous.
Matthew 15:22-28 jesus refuses to heal a woman’s daughter until she compares herself to a dog because she is a Canaanite and only worthy to eat the scraps off of Israel’s plate.
Jesus could still be hateful when he wanted.
Why does this guy look like a 16 year old with a Dollar Tree mustache?
I bet he diddles kids.
He’s a jesus-freak, the statistically most likely person on earth to diddle kids outside of trump’s circle
Because of that awful genz 70s stache
The fact that his followers don’t call him out for his insane bloodlust is very telling. These people don’t even have a foundation in their own religion let alone any moral compass at all.
These hatemongers are undeserving of religious designation and should instead be labeled as the stochastic terrorists they are.
Religious people want to be told how to live/think. It’s the exact same with the trump cult. “Why do they keep supporting him?” I hear all the time. Well, you see, there is no thinking going on there. Just thoughtless following. This keeps them from having to feel responsible for their choices.
Jesus literally taught and died to a people who hated Him and killed Him for His words. I understand this is Lemmy and people will dog on me for being a Christian, but I hope we can acknowledge that from your perspective we can separate the delusional (me) from these guys are actually just ghouls that twist who Jesus was.
The Bible has enough for unbelievers to hate without people making stuff up.
You’re not delusional. You read the book, and you believe in something. No one should have a problem with that.
I don’t think the guy in the article read the book or believes in anything. Seems like he’s pretty much shit.
Jesus was a doomsday cultist who believed literally that God’s kingdom was on earth as in people were going to raise from the dead.
This is the reason for his faked resurrection by his followers. To fulfill this insane prophecy and also explains why the authorities at the time were so suspect of the “prince of peace”.
Without this context his story is confusing and makes no sense.
Well the followers faked his resurrection because he died without having done the world domination thing that the messiah was supposed to do.
Don’t worry, he just ran out for smokes. He’ll be back soon and start doing all the messianic things then.
I have no ill will towards Christians, so long as they aren’t moralizing hypocrites or pushing theocracy onto others. Jesus is a pretty dope figure. I admire those who follow that example. It is heretics like this that lie about doctrine and teach hate that give Christianity the taint that it has.
Christian Nationalism is quite the oxymoron, isn’t it?
“Jesus said, ‘My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.’”
Have you ever looked at what the messiah was supposed to do?
The messiah was supposed to be a king of the line of David who was supposed to defeat the enemies of Israel, and lead the nation to subjugate the entire world and usher in a new age of “peace.”
Jesus said, himself, that he would bring in that new age of peace and toss everyone who wasn’t his followers into fire for eternal torment.
It’s unsurprising that nationalism crops up… even if Jesus wasn’t, uh, you know. Christian.
Yeah, and? Have you ever looked at what Jesus commanded his followers to do?
One of the scribes came up and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, “What commandment is the foremost of all?” Jesus answered, “The foremost is, ‘Hear, Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” (Mark 12:28-31 NASB)
What Jesus said, when addressing the idea of people who would be thrown into fire, was this:
Depart from Me, you accursed people, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.’ Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or as a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it for one of the least of these, you did not do it for Me, either.’ These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (Matthew 25:41-46 NASB)
Those are the people being eternally tormented - those who would not serve the least of these.
There’s so much more to expound on as well.
Jesus, in his Sermon on the Mount:
“Blessed are the poor in spirit,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
For they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
For they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
For they shall be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
For they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
For they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:3-10 NASB)Later, in Acts, Peter meets a centurion, who is the first Gentile to receive the Holy Spirit:
When Peter entered, Cornelius met him, and fell at his feet and worshiped him. But Peter helped him up, saying, “Stand up; I, too, am just a man.” As he talked with him, he entered and found many people assembled. And he said to them, “You yourselves know that it is forbidden for a Jewish man to associate with or visit a foreigner; and yet God has shown me that I am not to call any person unholy or unclean." (Acts 10:25-28 NASB)
The Messiah was indeed prophesied to defeat the enemies of Israel. He was also prophesied to be rejected by the people of Israel.
For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of dry ground; He has no stately form or majesty
That we would look at Him,
Nor an appearance that we would take pleasure in Him.
He was despised and abandoned by men,
A man of great pain and familiar with sickness;
And like one from whom people hide their faces,
He was despised, and we had no regard for Him.
However, it was our sicknesses that He Himself bore;
And our pains that He carried;
Yet we ourselves assumed that He had been afflicted,
Struck down by God, and humiliated.
But He was pierced for our offenses,
He was crushed for our wrongdoings;
The punishment for our well-being was laid upon Him,
And by His wounds we are healed. (Isaiah 53:2-5 NASB)I won’t say the problem isn’t organized religion.
Which would also line up with how Jesus acted toward the Pharisees and Sadducees.
From the Sermon on the Mount:
And when you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they will be seen by people. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But as for you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door, and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. (Matthew 6:5-6 NASB)
Later, in the Temple:
Then they came to Jerusalem. And He entered the temple area and began to drive out those who were selling and buying on the temple grounds, and He overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who were selling doves; and He would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple grounds. And He began to teach and say to them, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a den of robbers.” And the chief priests and the scribes heard this, and they began seeking how to put Him to death; for they were afraid of Him, because all the crowd was astonished at His teaching. (Mark 11:15-18 NASB)
Jesus showed up, flipped the script on organized religion, and they killed him. I do think Christian Nationalism is an oxymoron. It makes a show of faith and positions a government as an authority of God. This is not what Jesus commanded.
Therefore Pilate entered the Praetorium again, and summoned Jesus and said to Him, “You are the King of the Jews?” Jesus answered, “Are you saying this on your own, or did others tell you about Me?” Pilate answered, “I am not a Jew, am I? Your own nation and the chief priests handed You over to me; what have You done?” Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm.” Therefore Pilate said to Him, “So You are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say correctly that I am a king. For this purpose I have been born, and for this I have come into the world: to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to My voice.” (John 18:33-37 NASB)
Bonus Verses:
Jesus said to him, “If you want to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property. And Jesus said to His disciples, “Truly I say to you, it will be hard for a rich person to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” (Matthew 19:21-24 NASB)
Yeah, and? Have you ever looked at what Jesus commanded his followers to do?
why do you assume I haven’t.
One of the last commands he gives to teach ALL. not just the nice stuff. All the stuff. Jesus taught obedience to the written law, and the commands of the prophets. (Mat 28:20, John 14:15,21)
Jesus never overturned anything from the law. he taught obedience to it, and told them to adhere to everything. If you tell a kid how to keep their room clean, and you say “you need to do these things”… like getting rid of trash, putting toys away, laundry in a hamper or pile out the way or something, make the bed, all that stuff… and they’re like “but what’s the most important thing”… and you’re like “Getting rid of the trash”… and that’s the only thing they do, you’re not going to be very happy with them, are you? no. You might say something like “hey it’s great that you’re doing the trash, but I need you to do the other stuff too. if you don’t you’ll get grounded”
So when Jesus says “hey, these are the two greatest commandments”… he’s not disregarding anything. he’s not saying you don’t have to put your laundry away, just that it’s more important to get the stanky trash outta there.
And he even says this:
17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
- Mat5:17-20, NRSVUE, emphasis mine.
It’s very important to note that his beef with the pharisees is that they’ve left the written law and moved to an oral tradition. You can see this, for example, in mark 7:8-13
***8“You abandon the commandment of God and hold to human tradition.” *** 9 Then he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever speaks evil of father or mother must surely die.’ 11 But you say that if anyone tells father or mother, ‘Whatever support you might have had from me is Corban’ (that is, an offering to God), 12 then you no longer permit doing anything for a father or mother, 13 thus nullifying the word of God through your tradition that you have handed on. And you do many things like this.”
-NSRVUE, emphasis still mine.Some people at the time were saying “hey, this stuff is for god” and using that as a justification to not fulfill their obligations to their parents (support in old age.) Keep very front and center here, that the law Jesus is citing as this lovely little gotcha is Deuteronomy 21:18-21:
18 “If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father and mother, who does not heed them when they discipline him, 19then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his town at the gate of that place. 20 They shall say to the elders of his town, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of the town shall stone him to death. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel will hear and be afraid.
It’s also important that we recognize that what we have a very different understanding of “neighbor” and Jesus would have. (or indeed the author of Leviticus said (where he got that from.) he would not have considered slaves, for example, to be neighbors, and that it was perfectly fine to beat them for any old reason. Even to the last inch of their lives, so long as they didn’t die that day. Very loving, no?
What Jesus said, when addressing the idea of people who would be thrown into fire, was this: (Matthew 25:41-46 NASB)
It’s good to know that I’m dealing with someone that thinks eternal torture is justifiable in any form.
Those are the people being eternally tormented - those who would not serve the least of these.
until you read the other stuff he said…
There’s so much more to expound on as well.
Jesus, in his Sermon on the Mount:
the “blessed be’s” aren’t commandments. all he’s saying is some vague assurance that people who are in a bad way will be taken care of. He’s not directing anyone to actually take care of them (and indeed, elsewhere, he tells such to not worry since god will take care of it. mat 6:25+26, luke 12:22-24. please ignore that birds do regularly cache food, and that they do starve, and such, that’s unimportant…)
Later, in Acts, Peter meets a centurion, who is the first Gentile to receive the Holy Spirit: <snip>
Blatantly irrelevant. The Apostles and early church made the distinction between christian and non-christian, rather than inclusion in an ethnic identity. they still didn’t consider slaves to be people. or women, for that matter. Or else they wouldn’t have said things like “slave, obey your master”, and would have said things like “masters, free your slaves”. Even in the letter to Philemon about Onesimus, Paul didn’t say "free your salves’ or even “free this slave”. and indeed he made the slave carry the letter back.
The Messiah was indeed prophesied to defeat the enemies of Israel. He was also prophesied to be rejected by the people of Israel.
<snip> (Isaiah 53:2-5 NASB)
yes. yes. the suffering servant. which is a personification of the people of Israel. this is actually part of number of declarations by Deutero-Isaiah promising the restoration and liberation of the kingdom of Israel. It was written in the sixth century during the babylonian captivity which started around 586bce, with the fall of Jerusalem, and ended about 539 bce when Cyrus (persians) roflstomped the babylonians, and the second temple being rebuilt and rededicated around 516.
It has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus, and was fulfilled ~500+ years prior. If you’re about to add that there was some sort of second fulfillment… you’re reading things into it to justify something that simply isn’t there. No one, not I, not you, not the first century jews listening to Jesus have any reason at all to believe this was about Jesus.
And lets be totally clear: even if it was somehow inexplicitly about jesus… The jews in the first century weren’t in exile. The temple wasn’t destroyed, it wasn’t rebuilt (the second temple was destroyed around 70 ce. when the romans roflstomped them again.)
I won’t say the problem isn’t organized religion.
Christianity is an organized collection of religions.
Which would also line up with how Jesus acted toward the Pharisees and Sadducees.
you mean by being a fundamentalist going back to the organized system of laws? yeah. he told them not to be pompous assholes. so what?
Later, in the Temple:
(snip) (Mark 11:15-18 NASB)That’s from Jeremiah 7. just so we’re clear… this is from before the Babylonian exile (Jeremiah goes into the exile a bit.) in the 7th century BCE. Specifically. In it god is condemning them for worshiping other gods and being assholes… and he causes the Babylonians to do the invasion thing and do the enslavement thing. Which then leads into deutero-isiah’s promise to restore the nation.
It- again- has absolutely nothing at all to do with jesus, and Jesus didn’t fulfill anything about what god said he would actually cause. There was no burning, and the land of jerusalem didn’t become a wasteland (which it did after the Babylonians came through.)
Jesus showed up, flipped the script on organized religion, and they killed him. I do think Christian Nationalism is an oxymoron. It makes a show of faith and positions a government as an authority of God. This is not what Jesus commanded.
No he didn’t? he called for going back to an older version of organized religion. And once again. what was the messiah supposed to do? Institute a global, authoritarian theocracy, in which non-israelites serve the israelites. What did Jesus say he was going to do? institute a global authoritarian theocracy in which non-believers would be thrown into eternal torment. It’s only when none of that happened that people started going “oh, he meant spiritually”… and that’s a load of horseshite.
The amount of excuses made for what is ultimately a bunch of lies and false prophecies is astounding. I would suggest you ignore what the anonymous authors of the gospels were saying about all the prophecies jesus fuflilled and instead go back and read the actual passages in which the messianic prophecies were given. And while you’re reading them, go look up the events surrounding them and when jewish- not christian- shcolars say those prophecies were fulfilled or were about.
because the authors of mathew and luke couldn’t even speak the same languages as Jesus, never mind read ancient hebrew. Hell they barely could understand the greek translations they were using. (For example, the whole virgin birth thing comes from Isaiah 7:14, in which there’s no virgins mentioned. the original hebrew word translates to ‘a young woman who is with child’,)
(John 18:33-37 NASB)oh. so it was all just meant to be “spiritual”? tell me, how does one defeat oppressors spiritually? did he cast Dissonant Whispers? or maybe Vicious Mockery.
(Matthew 19:21-24)Which brings us back to what I said originally. I rather assume he had a cheesy-car-salesman-grin and a hand out. Like every charlatan pretending to be a faith healer who sees a whale come by.
I’m an atheist, but that doesn’t make us enemies. Not necessarily. Growing up, if someone said God bless you, I just said thanks. And if someone said Merry Christmas to Jews or Muslims, the point was that it was wishing someone well, right? And if someone wanted to say grace, I just bowed my head and listened politely.
But long about the mid-80’s, evangelicals decided that just my existence, or that of Jews or Muslims or Buddhists, was somehow persecuting them even though I’d never said a bad word about them, and frankly felt more kinship to them than those traditions that were foreign to me.
Circumstances have taught me that we are all united in a struggle to survive, to lift one another up and thus lift ourselves up, and leave a better world behind than the one we entered. And that includes people with whom I disagree — sometimes vehemently.
I think faith is a dangerous thing, but for some it can be ennobling. Whatever issues I might have with doctrine and dogma, people who truly embrace the teachings of Jesus in the Bible are my brother in cause, if not in spirit ('cause I don’t believe in that stuff).
John 13:34 friendo
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
“As I have loved you” literally died for His enemies so that they might know God and we still have people saying those Psalms are for people you disagree with politically and not Satan. 😭
That pastor would have to weigh and consider dying for trump, there’s no shot he could joyfully die for someone he considered an enemy.
you’re making the massive assumption that a historical jesus figure actually existed. either way, the reality is if you’re still christian you’re holding an umbrella over these ghouls and continuing to legitimize their disgusting message.
and you’re a freckle on my ballsack
Hegseth’s pastor is a heretic.
Brooks Potteiger, Hegseth’s pastor:
Public enemies. These are the Orcs at the gates. You are not called to love the barbarian horde that is planning to break into your city and pillage, plunder, rape, and mutilate you and your people. You don’t love that horde.
Jesus Christ, Matthew 5:43-45:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
Beat me to it. Blatant heresy. Directly and completely contradicts biblical canon and principals from the altar. He’s a liar, a hypocrite, and a vile human being. Of course Hegseth goes to that guy’s church.
Not only does he go to it. I can almost guarantee you based on the behavior of other fundamentalist Christians he probably directly sought this guy’s church out for how extreme his views are.
Orcs? He has mixed up his fiction.
KILL people!
-Pro Lifers!
Isn’t that the robox oof guy?
You’re thinking of Tommy Tallarico.
His Mom is very proud!
No but I have to remind myself every time he shows up.
That said oof guy might try taking credit for his achievements
If that shitstain you call God hasnt sent the child rapist in charge and all of the GOP leaders who have broken almost every rule to hell then it isn’t going to send the rest of us.
Hmmm, what is the cristian equivalent of fatwa again :thinkingface:
That’s exactly what it is
Thoughts and prayers, but bad ones
Its thoughts and curses when they are bad.










