• poVoq@slrpnk.net
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    20 hours ago

    I am referring to the opinion of the current inhabitants of Taiwan as expressed in opinion polls.

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      19 hours ago

      Ah then, no, they consider themselves Chinese. That’s the entire point. Specifically they are both Zhōnghuá and exceedingly few people contest that (hence the referendum trying to rename them from Chinese Taipei failing MISERABLY).

      Some polls, especially from CIA-Backed NED Organizations show ridiculous support, but actual democracy in Chinese Taipei shows little to no support for a ‘Taiwan’ identity. Especially given THEY LITERALLY MASSACRED THE TAIWANESE PEOPLE AND STOLE THEIR LAND.

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        19 hours ago

        Lol, what are you even talking about? Since 20 years the opinion polls are clear: The majority of the people living in Taiwan consider themselves Taiwanese. There is a somewhat large minority that considers themselves both Taiwanese and Chinese, but when asked to choose between the two the people of Taiwan overwhelmingly (like 90%) prefer to call themselves Taiwanese.

        Edit: but it looks like I am replying to a fresh Tankie sockpuppet account, so I guess no need to bother 🤦

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          They’re just referring to the martial law and white terror period that existed on the island for almost 4 decades. But it’s been almost as long since than it lasted.

          It’s a pretty important period for Taiwan, but interestingly enough this shows that the people of Taiwan today are less inclined to maintain that stance despite that history.

          However I wager that’s likely due to a rejection of association with the PRC than an identification with being Taiwanese alone.

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            18 hours ago

            People can have one opinion and still prefer to vote against it given the likely consequence of the imperialist neighbor attacking them 🤷

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              18 hours ago

              There really isn’t a definition of Imperialism that fits China. It does explicitly fit Taiwan, given ROC’s history.

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                18 hours ago

                Threatening to attack and occupy their self-ruled neighbors is pretty much the textbook definition of imperialist 🤦

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                  18 hours ago

                  They aren’t neighbors anymore than Hawaii is a neighbor to the US. If the British were fought back all the way to Hawaii, and only had Hawaii left and declared the entire American continent British territory, it would be ridiculous to say invading Hawaii is imperialism.

                  It is fighting back against the imperialists who decided to flee to an island, where again THEY GENOCIDED THE LOCAL POPULATION BEFORE AND DURING THEIR OCCUPATION.

                  ‘Taiwan’ and the ‘ROC’ are the bad guys, they invaded China, Failed in their take over so badly they inspired a popular peasant revolution, and got beat back to an island shortly before obtaining a defensive treaty from another nation known for imperialism and genocide.

                  Learn history, kiddo. Stop listening to the CIA.