Tamara and Chris are in court right now for charges about leading the convoy.
You let protestors, protest. Especially when it’s not violent. The only injuries sustained in this protest were given to an old lady vs a police horse. You can’t just throw the money on the street - someone has to organize it.
Why do you want the government to have so much control?
Pat king isn’t facing charges related to his leadership role in the convoy? Coulda sworn he had a court date the same day as Chris and Tamara’s a while back.
Anyway. I’m not in favor of people protesting to end my right to exist in a country, or dividing a country so they can have a place for “real Canadians”. That should be illegal, because once protests get enough momentum they can enact laws to enshrine their ethnostate.
I’m sorry you’re naive enough not to see this. Protesting is a tool for open societies, those who want to destroy such open societies should not have access to the tools to dismantle it, for then the society will cease to be open.
I’m glad it’s not you that gets to gate keep protests then.
They were protesting to stop the ridiculous mandates the government imposed with little to no scientific reasoning. Stop pretending this is some racist issue.
Ask some racist and non racist people if they believe vaccines work, you’ll get an interesting diagram.
What the two movements have in common is the absolute willfull ignorance of scientific evidence contrary to their views.
The “Medical Freedom” crowd is dangerous both for the stupidity of their “cause” and the unexpectedly effective camouflage they provide for other right wing racist bullshit.
If you think stupidity lives only on one end of the political spectrum, you’re going to be in for a bad time. Every group has their rednecks.
Willful ignorance exists heavily on both sides too. There was some willful ignorance about how effective the covid vaccine was when the government started mandating it everywhere they could.
Now that a huge portion of our population received the never-used-before (and rushed) vaccine, we know it’s not that effective. Hopefully this story ends here. The fact that this became very political should’ve been a huge red flag to everyone.
Here’s some references for you if your unsure where I’m getting this “effectiveness” data from:
The “medical freedom” crowd, in this instance, were ensuring the government doesn’t over step, as it likes to do.
If we’d stop with this tribalistic bullshit we could hold our governments more accountable and have them be more transparent. But we’re a divided mess - we won’t be able to do anything good until we find our middle ground.
Once we do, then no more Trumps, no more Trudeaus, just public servants doing what public servants should.
Nobody has a monopoly on stupidity, but the right is pretty close to an anti-trust lawsuit.
You put “effectiveness” in quotes because you have come to believe the vaccines aren’t effective. You pump “natural immunity” because your information sources told you the vaccines are dangerous, while ignoring that the health risks of getting that natural immunity is way higher without a vaccine than with.
Letting the virus burn through the population to acquire immunity is how we get Spanish Flu numbers. It’s inhumane and dangerous to the fabric of society. Catching covid after vaccination is the far superior option.
The vaccines kept people out of hospitals, prevented many infections, and newer studies are confirming with high certainty now that they reduced transmission:
Initial VET of booster-vaccination (mRNA primary and booster-vaccination) was 87% (95%CI 86–89) against Delta and 68% (95%CI 65–70) against Omicron. The VET-estimate against Delta and Omicron decreased to 71% (95%CI 64–78) and 55% (95%CI 46–62) respectively, 150–200 days after booster-vaccination. Hybrid immunity, defined as vaccination and documented prior infection, was associated with durable and higher or comparable (by number of antigen exposures) protection against transmission.
What part of these findings show a lack of effectiveness?
There is a long history of governments enforcing vaccines, and it’s because individual freedoms DO NOT trump the wellbeing of the country at large. People complained about freedom when they banned indoor smoking and enforced seatbelts too. Same stupid shit from stupid children.
But it’s ok, throw your lot in with stupid racist plague rats who are afraid of proven, tested, effective vaccine.
Keep consuming media so warped that you actually think Trudeau is anywhere near as dangerous as Trump.
Pat King was the biggest leader of the convoy, he is for sure a white supremicist per his own recorded words.
And why let Tamara collect money to basically fund a civil war?
In the Canadian govs eyes, he’s not the leader.
Tamara and Chris are in court right now for charges about leading the convoy.
You let protestors, protest. Especially when it’s not violent. The only injuries sustained in this protest were given to an old lady vs a police horse. You can’t just throw the money on the street - someone has to organize it.
Why do you want the government to have so much control?
Pat king isn’t facing charges related to his leadership role in the convoy? Coulda sworn he had a court date the same day as Chris and Tamara’s a while back.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tamara-lich-christopher-barber-pat-king-crown-lays-new-charges-freedom-convoy-1.6396145
Anyway. I’m not in favor of people protesting to end my right to exist in a country, or dividing a country so they can have a place for “real Canadians”. That should be illegal, because once protests get enough momentum they can enact laws to enshrine their ethnostate.
I’m sorry you’re naive enough not to see this. Protesting is a tool for open societies, those who want to destroy such open societies should not have access to the tools to dismantle it, for then the society will cease to be open.
I’m glad it’s not you that gets to gate keep protests then.
They were protesting to stop the ridiculous mandates the government imposed with little to no scientific reasoning. Stop pretending this is some racist issue.
Ask some racist and non racist people if they believe vaccines work, you’ll get an interesting diagram.
What the two movements have in common is the absolute willfull ignorance of scientific evidence contrary to their views.
The “Medical Freedom” crowd is dangerous both for the stupidity of their “cause” and the unexpectedly effective camouflage they provide for other right wing racist bullshit.
If you think stupidity lives only on one end of the political spectrum, you’re going to be in for a bad time. Every group has their rednecks.
Willful ignorance exists heavily on both sides too. There was some willful ignorance about how effective the covid vaccine was when the government started mandating it everywhere they could.
Now that a huge portion of our population received the never-used-before (and rushed) vaccine, we know it’s not that effective. Hopefully this story ends here. The fact that this became very political should’ve been a huge red flag to everyone.
Here’s some references for you if your unsure where I’m getting this “effectiveness” data from:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/natural-immunity-protective-covid-vaccine-severe-illness-rcna71027
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)02465-5/fulltext
The “medical freedom” crowd, in this instance, were ensuring the government doesn’t over step, as it likes to do.
If we’d stop with this tribalistic bullshit we could hold our governments more accountable and have them be more transparent. But we’re a divided mess - we won’t be able to do anything good until we find our middle ground.
Once we do, then no more Trumps, no more Trudeaus, just public servants doing what public servants should.
Nobody has a monopoly on stupidity, but the right is pretty close to an anti-trust lawsuit.
You put “effectiveness” in quotes because you have come to believe the vaccines aren’t effective. You pump “natural immunity” because your information sources told you the vaccines are dangerous, while ignoring that the health risks of getting that natural immunity is way higher without a vaccine than with.
Letting the virus burn through the population to acquire immunity is how we get Spanish Flu numbers. It’s inhumane and dangerous to the fabric of society. Catching covid after vaccination is the far superior option.
The vaccines kept people out of hospitals, prevented many infections, and newer studies are confirming with high certainty now that they reduced transmission:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10073587/#:~:text=Vaccines reduced susceptibility of HREC,contact completed BNT162b2 primary-vaccination.
What part of these findings show a lack of effectiveness?
There is a long history of governments enforcing vaccines, and it’s because individual freedoms DO NOT trump the wellbeing of the country at large. People complained about freedom when they banned indoor smoking and enforced seatbelts too. Same stupid shit from stupid children.
But it’s ok, throw your lot in with stupid racist plague rats who are afraid of proven, tested, effective vaccine.
Keep consuming media so warped that you actually think Trudeau is anywhere near as dangerous as Trump.
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