They’re somehow WORSE than duckduckgo nowadays like how? You were the search leader, people used DDG for privacy reasons but they passed you??? Did you forget why you’re a company? It’s because you were the best fucking search engine ever and you decided to sell that title for ads or some shit. Incredible how Google fell off the fucking side of a mountain they themselves built!
For me it went from “great” to “usable” over the course of a decade or so, and then from “usable” to “worthless” over the course of six months. It’s a remarkably awful trajectory.
And DuckDuckGo lacks basic stuff such as keyword exclusion. (It’s my main search engine for the last few years after Startpage got bought, but lacking keyword exclusion sucks!)
When you use 1/10th the searches because you get it all in the very first query your usage goes wayyyy down. even then, you aren’t limited to 300 searches. you can go over, you just pay per search. and even with that if you can’t do that then just default to DDG then. I found DDG to be terrible, not at all better than Bing by itself, so Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. And I don’t have to worry about any of my data going anywhere at all, to any advertisers for anything, or for tracking, etc.
I’ve done 418 searches today and it’s still noon. That’s ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I’d still be 4.18 times over.
… Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works.
Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of atol when it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn’t even show cppreference in the top 5.
Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly.
Does it also work with very specific technical searches?
That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for.
Could it for example search for the behavior of when it encounters an alphabetical character?
I’m not a power user, but I’ve used DDG exclusively for a while now and I often forget that I’m using it. I’d say it’s a pretty seamless transition nowadays.
You actually get the results you are looking for without the sponsored links. Sometimes you end up searching for reddit results but that’s every search engine.
I only use Google if DDG can’t find what I’m looking for. Usually Google doesn’t either if DDG can’t so lately I’ve been giving up after the DDG results. I can’t stand Google anymore. The first page of results is just ads and the next page is all irrelevant nonsense.
the auto predictions always give me more words than i need, so i have to type normally, like it wasn’t there, or select, hope it doesn’t load, and delete the extra words
This is my beef with basically all modern interfaces. Stuff changes and moves with just enough of a delay to cause me to miss click. Autocomplete changing recommendations on phones, UI elements shifting on web pages, etc.
This has been something so frustrating that nobody seems to talk about. They really need to provide autofill that only adds the one next word, rather than two or three. Because otherwise, the autofill becomes useless.
As an ex 6-figure Google/Alphabet software engineer, the reason you may be dissatisfied with the search results lies herein to your account history, ergo, your account may not be tailored to the content you search per-se. Have you tried clearing the browser cache and history?
Source: Am a 6 figure Google/alphabet engineer, have worked on the code for google related services.
And it fucking blows now. You don’t get shit but ads.
They’re somehow WORSE than duckduckgo nowadays like how? You were the search leader, people used DDG for privacy reasons but they passed you??? Did you forget why you’re a company? It’s because you were the best fucking search engine ever and you decided to sell that title for ads or some shit. Incredible how Google fell off the fucking side of a mountain they themselves built!
Yes, but have you considered, line must go up?
For me it went from “great” to “usable” over the course of a decade or so, and then from “usable” to “worthless” over the course of six months. It’s a remarkably awful trajectory.
And DuckDuckGo lacks basic stuff such as keyword exclusion. (It’s my main search engine for the last few years after Startpage got bought, but lacking keyword exclusion sucks!)
you can -something , but it isn’t full exclusion. It’s generally been good enough for me. I agree the full fat version would be nice.
So far I haven’t had any luck with -something “soft” exclusions either.
Yea I bailed after they nerfed exclusions and whatnot but not like the others are slam dunks
It’s pretty wild how Google search has degraded. The push for SEO has really ruined useful results.
Kagi is even better than DDG. Google is absolutely horrendous.
It’s interesting, but $120 a year is just too much for me.
The lowest plan is only $54 a year and it’s most definitely worth it for the results.
300 searches a month is just way too little for my usage
When you use 1/10th the searches because you get it all in the very first query your usage goes wayyyy down. even then, you aren’t limited to 300 searches. you can go over, you just pay per search. and even with that if you can’t do that then just default to DDG then. I found DDG to be terrible, not at all better than Bing by itself, so Kagi was something I tried and immediately fell in love with. It just works. And I don’t have to worry about any of my data going anywhere at all, to any advertisers for anything, or for tracking, etc.
I’ve done 418 searches today and it’s still noon. That’s ~1254 a month. Even if my searches went down by 90% I’d still be 4.18 times over.
Does it also work with very specific technical searches? Could it for example search for the behavior of
atol
when it encounters an alphabetical character? Neither Google, Bing nor DuckDuckGo provide me with an answer. Google doesn’t even show cppreference in the top 5.Sorry I’m having trouble understanding what you’re asking for. You’ve done 418 searches in a single day? That would be 12958 a month so I’m not sure I’m reading your comment correctly.
That’s pretty much exactly what I use it for.
I’m not sure what you’re asking here.
DDG works without registration and has a non-javascript version. There are better search engines but Kagi doesn’t seem one of these
Is ddg actually good now? I remember it feeling nearly useless waay back when it was first hitting the scene. Might have to give it a shot again
I’m not a power user, but I’ve used DDG exclusively for a while now and I often forget that I’m using it. I’d say it’s a pretty seamless transition nowadays.
You actually get the results you are looking for without the sponsored links. Sometimes you end up searching for reddit results but that’s every search engine.
Not kagi. I haven’t specified Reddit once since switching to kagi. It really is that much better than DDG and Google.
I only use Google if DDG can’t find what I’m looking for. Usually Google doesn’t either if DDG can’t so lately I’ve been giving up after the DDG results. I can’t stand Google anymore. The first page of results is just ads and the next page is all irrelevant nonsense.
Yeah it’s so bad, the auto predictions dont even make sense any more.
the auto predictions always give me more words than i need, so i have to type normally, like it wasn’t there, or select, hope it doesn’t load, and delete the extra words
And when i go to click on an auto prediction it changes it at the last damn second too. That drives me mad
This is my beef with basically all modern interfaces. Stuff changes and moves with just enough of a delay to cause me to miss click. Autocomplete changing recommendations on phones, UI elements shifting on web pages, etc.
I thought i was getting old. I mean, i am, but this just enough delay miss-clicks make me feel even older
This has been something so frustrating that nobody seems to talk about. They really need to provide autofill that only adds the one next word, rather than two or three. Because otherwise, the autofill becomes useless.
And they want to force us to whitelist youtube from adblockers.
As an ex 6-figure Google/Alphabet software engineer, the reason you may be dissatisfied with the search results lies herein to your account history, ergo, your account may not be tailored to the content you search per-se. Have you tried clearing the browser cache and history?
Source: Am a 6 figure Google/alphabet engineer, have worked on the code for google related services.
The search sucks because of the seo poisoning, regardless of personal entries, which, by the way, most of privacy aware users have already disabled.
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privacy on google doesn’t exist.