Since October 7, more than 3,257 children have been reported killed, including at least 3,195 in Gaza, 33 in the West Bank, and 29 in Israel, according to the Ministries of Health in Gaza and Israel respectively. The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

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    After Hamas’ actions on the 7th I don’t see Israel stepping back. Their previous attempts at curtailing Hamas were already under criticism for not going far enough, and that was before the largest attack in decades had occurred

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        Fantastic Videos, and yes Israel has given more than enough cause for Palestinians to act against them. But none of them excuse the crimes that Hamas have committed both on Oct 7th and in the past as well

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          Idk, I think decades of serious suffering, oppression, and the looming threat of the annihilation of your people seems like just about as much justification as one could have. I feel like, to say otherwise is to tell the palestinians to shut up and take their genocide with a smile. Peace negotiations have and will get them nowhere, violence, as extreme as they can muster, is the only option they have left. Yet, it pales in comparison to what can be done back to them, and without intervention the state of palestine and its people will cease to be.

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            Hamas aren’t doing it for the Palestinian people, they aren’t the Palestinian liberators. Just tools to be used by aggressive Islamic nations like Iran to attack a Jewish state. Doesn’t mean Palestinians aren’t going Hamas in order to do such a thing but they then just become pawns in a conflict between two very right wing, authoritarian, theocratic sides.

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              Is that really how you read my comment, and the situation? Hamas couldn’t genocide shit, even if they wanted to. These countries, these people, are not on even ground. And if Hamas didn’t do something extreme, we wouldn’t be talking about it, no one would give a shit, and they’d go quietly into the history books like so many before them.

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                You are not a psychic, you can make any prediction you want but it will never achieve clairvoyance

                Mass violence is NEVER a counter to mass violence

                Was nothing learned from the non-violence movements?

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                  The people of Gaza tried to protest in a non violent march in 2018. The IDF responded by shooting thousands of civilians including women, children, and journalists.

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                    non violent march in 2018 “Most of the demonstrators demonstrated peacefully far from the border fence… Nevertheless, groups consisting mainly of young men approached the fence and committed acts of violence directed towards the Israeli side” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–2019_Gaza_border_protests)

                    And they will need to keep approaching Nonviolence. It is the only solution that is viable for a long lasting peace

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                  You don’t know I’m not psychic.

                  There you go equating again.

                  Sometimes nonviolence works, but not always. Sometimes it works in spectacular ways, like the oppressed vanish and then there is no more oppression. Nonviolent movements have existed and had grown quite large in palestine, yet here we are.

                  Edit: I will say, this sounds nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMAtiNHuJlo

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                Quietly into the history books, as the world’s first country of Palestine

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            The actual looming threat that Hamas attacked over was the PA enacting a two-state solution with Israel.

            Hamas doesn’t care about Palestinians at all

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              Fuck off.

              Netanyahu said “You must remember what Amalek has done to you, says our Holy Bible. 1 Samuel 15:3 ‘Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass’," .

              You keep quacking like a nazi duck man…

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      He says, unironically, on an article about 3000 dead children. Gross.
      How many children do you think the critics will accept as enough? Or does that number not matter because they aren’t Israeli children?

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          Literally the post we are on:

          The number of children reported killed in just three weeks in Gaza is more than the number killed in armed conflict globally – across more than 20 countries – over the course of a whole year, for the last three years.

          I want them to stop the wholesale slaughter of kids. This barbarism is not how a “just” war is conducted, and especially not a “defensive” one.

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              To repeat what I said to your statement higher up:
              A 100 year old charity whose goal is to save children from war is a terrorist group Hamas? Are you ok?

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                  just fine, here ya go

                  The United Nations and other international institutions and experts, as well as Palestinian authorities in the West Bank — rivals of Hamas — say the Gaza ministry has long made a good-faith effort to account for the dead under the most difficult conditions. “The numbers may not be perfectly accurate on a minute-to-minute basis,” said Michael Ryan, of the World Health Organization’s Health Emergencies Program. “But they largely reflect the level of death and injury.”
                  In previous wars, the ministry’s counts have held up to U.N. scrutiny, independent investigations and even Israel’s tallies.

                  Furthermore

                  WHO WORKS IN THE MINISTRY?
                  Hamas, as Gaza’s ruling authority, exerts control over the Health Ministry. But it’s different than political and security agencies that Hamas runs.
                  The Palestinian Authority, which controlled Gaza before Hamas overran the area in 2007, retains power over health and education services in Gaza, though it’s based in the occupied West Bank. The ministry is a mix of recent Hamas hires and older civil servants affiliated with the secular nationalist Fatah party, officials say.

                  If you opened your eyes to the rest of the thread you’d see this, but your special so I made a point to repeat it just for you.

                  Good enough for the UN, the WHO, the AP and prior to the mass bombing campaign, Israel itself.

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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

        The killing of kids is terrible

        Israel’s goal of Hamas’ destruction makes it unavoidable

        Without a change in Gaza further attacks from Hamas are unavoidable

        And unless there is a government in Israel that stops the settlement and incursions of Radical Israelis in the west bank there will be no peace

        There is no true and just change here at this time that fixes everything