• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 year ago

        i buy petroleum products. i disagree with most of the aspects of their procurement, distribution, and use. if i stop buying them, none of that changes.

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          Petroleum production decreases as we implement alternatives. Are you really going to tell me this isn’t the case? 🤣

          ETA: You know, for someone named commie, you’re spouting a lot of neoliberal nonsense. “Ah, no sense trying to change anything even if we don’t agree with it.”

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            1 year ago

            “Ah, no sense trying to change anything even if we don’t agree with it.”

            that’s not what i’m saying. i’m saying being vegan isn’t an effective way to change anything.

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              You’re really gonna tell me that meat production will be unchanged as more people have been adopting a plant-based diet. Good thing you don’t run Tyson, they’ve been having to close meat processing plants due to decreased demand.

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                1 year ago

                You’re really gonna tell me that meat production will be unchanged as more people have been adopting a plant-based diet.

                meat production continues to GROW even as MORE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ADOPTING A PLANT-BASED DIET.

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                  1 year ago

                  Correlation != causation. Left unchecked, production will inevitably see some increase due to WHAT?! Increased population. However, anticipated growth hasn’t met expectations. Gee, almost like there’s a reason…

                  After that, I wonder how much production would decrease if we stopped giving animal agriculture their multi-billion dollar shot in the arm every year from the USDA versus the few million that plant alternatives gets. Wonder what would happen if we reversed that…

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                    1 year ago

                    production will inevitably see some increase due to WHAT

                    i don’t think it’s inevitable that population increase leads to increased production. this is another example of an assertion of a causal link where no such link exists.